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Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 12:33:41 am CDT

I heard portions of the president’s speech to the Knesset restating the longtime policy of the United States not to negotiate with terrorists and the president’s soft condemnation of those in 1939 who sought to appease Adolf Hitler. It contained no reference to the Democratic Party nor to Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee. 

I have been concerned about patriotism of those in both political parties who voted to go to war and then criticize the president for trying to win. I have wondered what Obama’s views on the war on terror are. But the president’s comments did not cause me to think of the Democrats or of  Obama — they caused me to think of former President Carter, who recently went to the Middle East to negotiate with Hezbollah, a terrorist group.

Obama and the Democrats, however, took the president’s comments condemning appeasement as a personal criticism of them.

They seem much like the lad who, having a guilty knowledge of a broken window, immediately says when his father calls him that it wasn’t his baseball that broke the window, even though his father doesn’t yet know the window was broken and was calling to take him to get a pop.

Apparently like this lad, Obama and the Democrats know they are appeasers so assume any talk about appeasers is about them leaping, because of their own guilty knowledge, to defend themselves before they have been accused.

William Stone, Lincoln

State should uphold laws

The debate over whether illegal immigrants deserve protection by the state misses the mark. The real issue is not about whether illegal immigrants deserve protection. The pertinent issue is whether the state is going to prosecute lawbreakers.

If we follow the logic that it is OK to discriminate against illegal immigrants, would it then be acceptable to steal from them, to assault them or to kill them? Are we ready to go down that path? If not, let’s uphold our laws. If our current attorney general is unwilling to do that, it is time to replace him.

Rex Strom, Lincoln

Watch for motorcyclists

Now that the summer is here, there are more motorcycles on the streets of Lincoln. All automobile drivers need to be more alert this summer with more people riding to save money on gas.

The vast majority of motorcycle accidents are caused by auto drivers. Statistically, the most common cause of auto accidents is auto drivers pulling out from side streets into motorcycle paths and turning left in intersections.

Auto drivers often claim, “I didn’t see him.” Riders are watching out for you, so please watch out for them.  

Steven Buell, Lincoln

Man let down by society

In regard to the article “Lincoln man dies at detox center”, please don’t be too quick to judge and dismiss a man who clearly was let down by society.

Lonnie Miller was a victim of addiction and neglect. The fact that he had been arrested 256 times illustrates a severe lack in our community to understand and treat addiction. It’s deplorable in a country as rich as ours that someone could live, and ultimately die, in such a way.

I didn’t personally know Miller, but I know that he was someone’s son, a friend, a volunteer, a member of our society. Those are all the facts I need to know that he did not deserve this. Rest in peace, Lonnie. 

Kelli L. Kraft, Lincoln


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Don wrote on May 22, 2008 12:45 am:
" William Stone is correct. Good letter. "

 No win wrote on May 22, 2008 6:03 am:
" William, if Bush is trying to win the war, he's doing a pretty poor job of it, period. He stopped seriously trying to win the war after his taxpayer funded political stunt of landing on an aircraft carrier and proclaiming "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED". "

 Lonnie was a nice guy wrote on May 22, 2008 6:12 am:
" I did know Lonnie from time to time. He was a very pleasant person to be around in my experience. I'm not sure if he was let down by society, but I would say he was disapproved by society on many occasions. Kelli is right that the way our culture functions, a certain amount of substance abuse and dependence is to be expected. Our competitive and non-stop pace we follow does not suit everyone. Some people are more happy with a space under a bridge and a bottle to put them asleep then with the prospect of joining the rat race. Lonnie chose a different path than most of us would, but he was a human being like the rest of us, feeling happy and feeling sad, asking life's questions and trying to find a way to be happy. It was good to have known you Lonnie "

 Ray-J wrote on May 22, 2008 6:50 am:
" Kelli,
If this is really the way you feel, go downtown and take a homeless person off of a city bench, take him/her home, feed him, clothe him and help get him off of the street.
Didn't think so.
OR,in a more reasonable solution, volunteer your time at a center for the homeless or the Salvation Army, your actions will speak louder than your words.
There are some that just don't want to be saved. "

 But wrote on May 22, 2008 7:37 am:
" Despite what Bush says and the talking heads of the right wing say, the US has a long history of talking to terrorists. Both Russia and China supported the North Koreans in the Korean war and also supported the North Vietnamese in that war. If you don't call them terrorists nations, I don't know what would qualify. Remember when Kruschev said "We will bury you". If that isn't a terroristic threat, I don't know what is. And we negotiated with both countries. Nixon went to China and talked to them. He, Eisenhower, Regan and GHW Bush talked to Russia and negotiated treaties with them.

So, please quit saying we do not negotiate with our enemies or terrorists. History proves that we have done just that! "

 SB wrote on May 22, 2008 7:45 am:
" Carter went to negotiate with Hezbollah? What was he offering as negotiation - his latest book? "

 mitchy_v wrote on May 22, 2008 7:51 am:
" So it is our fault that he got arrested 256 times. To me, someone got too many chances. "

 motorcycles wrote on May 22, 2008 7:58 am:
" Well obviously the motor cycles are not watching out for cars or there wouldn't be auto vs motor accidents. If you are on a motorbike and this should know you are hard to see then you take control. you should allows assume you are not being seen and tus slow down and be ready to stop yourself. It just plan smart. So please don't say that motorcyclists are watching out for me. "

 George wrote on May 22, 2008 8:20 am:
" If I recall, the greatest threat to America, the Soviet Union, was not quelled by violence or war (see Vietnam, Korea, and Afghanistan), but through negotiation and leverage. And who was the individual to negotiate with these terrorists? Why none other than Bush's hero and role model Ronald Reagan.

On a side note, the US does not have a large history negotiating with terrorists but rather selling them arms or giving them funds so that they may burn and kill for our side. "

 Bizarre spin wrote on May 22, 2008 8:36 am:
" Bill Stone uses the bizarre spin that anyone you talks with "terrorists" is dead set to appease "terrorists". What kind of leap is that? I think that having communications with countries like Iran is a good idea.Better than sitting with your drapes closed and assuming the worst is about to happen. Get out and find out what is happening. Unfortunately, our current president was unable to do just that before he launched us into a war in Iraq to rid that country of it's weapons of mass destruction. He certainly got us all upset and ready to send young people into harms way on that poorly gathered "intelligence". Obviously, the Bush method has been faulty and inefficient at best. Why then would we consider anything that man says regarding foreign policy as valid. He has pretty much failed on all fronts. And as far as not mentioning Obama or the Democratic party by name, I'm sure Dr. Stone is well aware that sometime the most important part of a message is the part that is left unsaid. "

 Edgar Pearlstein wrote on May 22, 2008 8:36 am:
" Israel is now ignoring Mr. Bush's philosophy and talking with Syria. Mr. Stone might not have known that when he wrote his letter.

For almost 50 years we continued to talk with the Soviet Union, even though it was often frustrating and unpleasant. That was a lot better than having a shooting war.

When we have people taking hostages, we generally try to talk with them, rather than go in immediately with guns blazing. Sometimes that works, and in any case does no harm. "

 So wrote on May 22, 2008 8:38 am:
" did I hear 'PORTIONS" of the speech william. It sounded like he was back to that if you don't approve of my war then you are not a patriot. William I retired after over 21 years of service and feel like I'm a patriot. I say so because I don't want young volunteers fighting a war thats based on lies. Where was bush during vietnam? Didn't he skip a flight physical? That in itself tells me he didn't want to continue his status in case they called his unit. How about cheney? This guy had five draft deferments. As has been said Cheney likes wars he just does'nt want to participate. How about your service record bill? How many conflicts? I can count over 4 on my records. Seems like people who stand behind this war, haven't participated in them. "

 Ryan wrote on May 22, 2008 8:43 am:
" Umm, representatives from the White House said over and over that Bush was referring to Obama. He might not have used Obama's name but it was verified again and again by insiders that it was pointed at Obama. "

 Mike wrote on May 22, 2008 9:04 am:
" I will wear a black helmet, jacket and pants to be sure the people on cars can see me.
I don't care if wearing black isn't cool, my life is more important.
I wear my black outfit proudly "

 Hank wrote on May 22, 2008 9:05 am:
" Mr. Stone, you are either incredibly naive or you are assuming the readers are increadibly naive. There is no doubt as to what Bush was saying in Israel. What you are doing here is pushing along a very sick political lie. Fortunately, probably only non-thinking chronic Republicans will buy it. Your criticism of Carter is equally a cheap shot. Carter is to be commended for speaking to all sides of the Palestinian struggle for their very existence. Get real, Mr. Stone, and please refrain from blindly passing on the newest set of lies as suggested by this week's Republican campaign memo. "

 Joe wrote on May 22, 2008 9:17 am:
" Sorry to tell you this Kelli but all the programs in the world won't help someone with substance abuse problems if they don't want to quit. They have to recognize they have a problem and WANT to quit themselves. The old saying is true "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink". "

 JMK wrote on May 22, 2008 9:51 am:
" Good point Steven. Motorists should be on the watch for motorcycles, and yes we are on the watch for cars and yes we do assume you don't watch for us. It only takes a few seconds to take a second look before changing lanes or pulling out into traffic. All motorcycles have to have their headlights on at all times. Maybe if you can't see us, you should have your eyes checked and/or wear your glasses. I have no problem seeing motorcycles when I am driving my car. This is like saying you drive a very large vehicle and don't see small cars on the road because they aren't the same size as your car/truck.
Remember, just because you don't like motorcycles doesn't give you the right to ignore them. "

 John wrote on May 22, 2008 10:00 am:
" Hey I like Bushes shoot first and ask questions later way of thinking. He's a real Cowboy.
Think how much entertainment he brought to the american people with the Iraq war, people were glued to CNN "

 JT wrote on May 22, 2008 10:02 am:
" William Stone is definitely not correct. If he would have made one google search he could have discovered that Sen. Obama has been speaking out against the Iraq War from before it started. Appeasement is when one gives something away to achieve a political goal (i.e. Czechoslovakia). If you think that Pres. Bush has any authority left in terms of foreign policy you don't follow the news very closely. "

 MarkyMark wrote on May 22, 2008 10:20 am:
" No Bush Jr didn't mention Obama but who in the world do you think he was talking to. I've never seen a President immature enough to make ablatantly partisan statement like that on the soil of one of our allies.

One thing for certain we definitely don't want to repeat the ultimate act of terrorist appeasment that happened back in 1980. When Iranians held American hostages and the Republican henchman went over and made an arms deal with them to NOT release the hostages until after the election. This would ensure a Reagan victory over Carter and then our administration paid up by dealing the terrorist the arms and that they wanted. The terrorists then released the American hostages on the day of Reagans inauguration. Thus Iran-Contra was born. You are right, Mr. Stone these kind of actions won't be tolerated. "

 female rider wrote on May 22, 2008 10:33 am:
" Being a motorcyclist has made me a far better driver of cars/trucks. I am more aware of everything around me - and more watchful of bikes/cyclists. Riding a motorcycle is a huge responsibility and most riders watch vehicles very closely - you have to. We aren't going to win in a collision. Cars have merged into my lane and I purposely stay out of blind spots, but people don't look. Other drivers have ignored my turn signals with hand signals, cars have turned in front of me even though I ride with lights on and flash them if I see someone about to do something stupid that might endanger me. Even tailgated me so close once, I had to actually get off a side road to try to let them go around. Turns out the guys in a truck were "playing a game with me" and laughed as they went on by - nice... It isn't a game, boys! "

 history wrote on May 22, 2008 10:34 am:
" For those of you saying that we simply talked to the USSR and resolved the Cold War, you are mistaken. Remember, we had a few missiles pointed at the USSR. We showed force and we beat them economically. When it was time to sit down and negotiate, there were preconditions and Reagan wasn't going to go in there and give anything up. He told Gorbachev the way things were going to be.

This is the kind of negotiation that needs to happen. Not Obama's "no preconditions" nonsense. You don't go in and make deals with rogue nations. "

 Politician for Mr Stone wrote on May 22, 2008 10:56 am:
" We need a leader who won't illegally invade sovereign nations and one that will stick to our constitution. We need one that won't torture prisoners or authorize illegal wiretaps. We need a leader who knows at least something about our economy, but most of all we need a leader who is not an oilman! Now don't accuse me of talking about Bush as his name is not mentioned here. "

 Ripper wrote on May 22, 2008 10:58 am:
" I count six engagements in war on my record. I lost a father and a son to armed conflict-I believe we 'talk' to everybody and we back it up with a big stick. But we should talk not appease which seems to be the leap that was taken by Bush in Israel. And by the way, Carter did not talk to all sides when he was over in the Middle East-he talked to Hezbollah, the Palistine Liberation Organization, to Syria. He did not talk to nor did he attempt to approach Israel. My Sector Clearance gives me access to this information. Carter was a lousy president and he continues to be a lousy negotiator. He needs to get out of his self appointed ambassadorship. Most of you seem to forget that we probably had less to do with the collapse of the USSR than economics did. Communists did not go away-communism did not go away-as if it ever really existed since you can't call what they were communism in the purest sense. But what if Bush took a shot at Obama-is that off limits-if so then you need to tell Carter that, you need to tell Hillary that (after she is done ducking bullets in Croatia or where ever it was). I personally wish we would have an election where we had a choice instead of a need to vote the lesser of two evils. My only concern about Obama is that he has done absolutely nothing and I am not sure we should put our country in the hands of somebody who has done absolutely nothing. "

 Re Motorcycles wrote on May 22, 2008 10:58 am:
" Motorcylists are aware of cars around them and are aware that some motorist do not see them so they do slow down and are alert and prepared to stop. You take a motorcycle rider course,you are trained in those skills of watching out for other vehicles and emergency stops. Motorcycles have blind spots just like cars and can't see every dumb driver out there. But that doesn't excuse a driver of a car or truck from not watching out for motorcycles. Why don't you just hang up that cell phone, pay attention to the road and traffic around you, slow down and be prepared to take evasive action instead of relying on the other guy! Just maybe you will not hit a motorcycle and get thrown in jail!

Motorcycles have just as much right to the road as you. "

 Jody P. wrote on May 22, 2008 11:11 am:
" Bush is finding out what Hillary has known for a long time, which is that if you so much as complain about the weather it will be taken as a personal attack by Obama and his supporters. Obama actually does seem to believe that the entire world revolves around him. He should get away from the adoring crowds and see the real world out there.

Also I see nowhere among reputable news outlets where Bush's staff said his comments were directed at Obama, in fact just the opposite. Bush aides were concerned the remarks might be interpreted as a slam at Carter. Furthermore, Bush has said similar things many times in the past, so it should come as no suprise to hear him repeat these thoughts while over there. "

 Appeaser wrote on May 22, 2008 11:13 am:
" William Stone said that Mr. Bush's criticism of those who would negotiate with terrorists and radicals did not make him think of the Democrats or Obama. Perhaps it made him think of Ehud Olmert, who is currently negotiating with Syria (a state sponsor of terrorism) and Hamas (a terrorist organization). Or perhaps Fouad Siniora, whose government has reached an agreement with Hezbollah (another terrorist organization) that gives Hezbollah veto power over decisions of the Lebanese Cabinet, a concession that was granted in order to avoid war. When will Mr. Bush make a speech condemning the foolish delusions of the governments of Israel and Lebanon who have embraced the false comfort of appeasement? "

 Progress Report wrote on May 22, 2008 12:16 pm:
" What I fail to understand about Mr.Obama's and the left position is how will unconditional talks bring about peace? To promote Iran to superpower status such as the former USSR is a leap that would only the simplistic could make.There are always "back channel" diplomatic talks that take place with most every combatant country however we are not dealing with a combantant country but a mob of murderous physcopaths...namely al-Qaida and the groups that are funded by them.
The second premise that I fail to understand from Mr.Obama and the left is under what conditions would military force be justified? Remember that the Taliban didn't attack us on 9/11/01 but it was al-Qaida..so what justification did we have in invading Afghanistan? or what justification would a president Obama have in send in American troops to Pakistan to hunt for al-Qaida and Bin Laden?? For the record we and the Iraqi government have talked with the Shiite's,Suni's and Kurds and those groups have as a condition accepted that they must sever ties between their political groups from their militiants in order to participate in their local Iraqi elections this fall, the Sadrist haven't and will be frozen out.
The next premise I fail to see is Mr.Obama and the left view that this has been a diasaster. My question is...If it has been a diasaster please show me the sucessfulness of the terrorists.What do they control? Cities?...lost Basra,Slums....losing Sadr city by the hour. What exactly have they been successful at accomplishing????
I would hate to be the CEO of this terrorist organization and have to report on the constant failures of this undertaking.....doing a heck of a job Osama, yeah we'er doing a heck of a job of FAILING!!! "

 Kristine wrote on May 22, 2008 12:40 pm:
" What's with guys that think trying to talk something out, trying to negotiate, is 'appeasement'? Point and say 'wussy'--that's what you mean. I just think to myself, 'Wow, George would be a really bad boyfriend'....... "

 dg wrote on May 22, 2008 12:59 pm:
" Hey Rex.. Yea, let our DA prosecute the criminals.. ILLEGAL aliens, round'em up and DEPORT them home, then guess what, no more debate on who gets the services of the state "

 RERipper wrote on May 22, 2008 2:26 pm:
" congrats on your six engagements. You say we won the cold war because of economics. You are right. Right now we couldn't win any war with the way the bushie administration has the economics of this country in. He will have us all broke and the country bankrupt before he leaves office. Mark this in favorites on your computer and check in January and see where the country is. "

 MarkyMark wrote on May 22, 2008 2:26 pm:
" I think what upset people, both Democrat and Republican alike was, not that it was a partisan, hypocritical spin, but that it was done on an international stage in front of the Israelis. "

 Better wrote on May 22, 2008 2:31 pm:
" to have someone who don't know and asks for help than a cowboy who knows it all. "

 reripperre wrote on May 22, 2008 2:36 pm:
" I pray to God we aren't bankrupt in January-I also pray that we wipe the terrorists off the face of the earth. I will check back in January and see where we are at-I would trade 6 more engagements in battle to have one hour back with either my father or son- "

 Correcting Ripper wrote on May 22, 2008 2:49 pm:
" Carter did broker a fairly historic peace treaty between Israel and Egypt back in 78 or 79. And by the way, you folks that like to scrutinize these candidates, if you voted for Bush twice, all I can say is, "Talk to the hand cuz the face don't understand." "

 ns wrote on May 22, 2008 2:54 pm:
" Progress Report and several others, the only difference between a terrorist and a freedom-fighter is whose side you're on. To characterize them as a 'mob of murderous psychopaths" conveys considerable ignorance of the political dynamics of that region, and draws a deep line in the sand that would seem to preclude reasonable negotiation. Do you think the average Iraqi citizen, especially those who have lost relatives or have been displaced, would share that view? Or might they instead regard such "terrorists" as courageous countrymen fighting a foreign invader who they have plenty of reason to distrust (think oil, Israel, neocon ambitions)? It might be useful to imagine yourself in their shoes. "

 Zoomie wrote on May 22, 2008 3:01 pm:
" Why does everyone ignore Sec of Defense Robert Gates, who last week said we need to talk to Iran, to Syria, to the PLO, to Hamas and to Hezbollah? You know...the same thing Obama said! Why are you ignoring the fact Israel has admitted talking to Syria for months? Why ignore the fact that Bush's State Dept has confirmed their support of Israel's talking to Syria? Seems to me, the only one who thinks talking to potential/actual enemies is "appeasement" is Bush and his last-ditch, die-hard supporters (and then only as an attempt to attack Obama on McCain's behalf)! "

 Give me San Fran back wrote on May 22, 2008 3:20 pm:
" Rex is right: the illegal immigrant issue is a red herring (an argument based on distraction) when it comes to public discussions about Bruning improperly not
prosecuting discrimination cases. Obviously, Bruning is talented when it comes to reading and exploiting the darker angels of the Cornhusker
state, but that hardly brings his sleazy tactics up to ethical muster.It does become a slippery slope when you start valuing some human beings and their basic rights over those of others. That's how imperialism and white supremacy got started in the first place. "

 Get Real wrote on May 22, 2008 3:37 pm:
" Kelli: Using your own statistics, society made at lest 256 attempts to aid Mr. Miller. "

 MarkyMark wrote on May 22, 2008 4:05 pm:
" The Real Progress Report. The Terrorists goal is to cause terror to all our citizens and to ruin our economy. Bush Jr. took the bait hook, line, and sinker. Remember the Terror alert colored warnings???? Bush gave them just what they wanted. Attacking a sovereign country like Iraq is also what they wanted. This was a multiple folly. This has allowed massive recruiting of young Islamic men against the Infidels and the terrorists have to really be relishing the collapse of our economy caused mostly by the invasion and occupation of Iraq. I believe Mr Bush was looking forward to driving up the price of oil, but I dont think he had a clue when it came to foreign policy. Hook, line, and sinker. Yes Progress report, the terrorists have accomplished many of their goals against the United States, largely with the emboldening help of our own President. "

 Nina wrote on May 22, 2008 4:59 pm:
" I realize there are a very few freaky people out there who intentionally put a scare into motorcyclists, and they are indeed creepy. I always try to especially watch for them, as do most others, I think. I don't harbor any resentment or try to ignore; HOWEVER, they are still difficult to see sometimes. (Usually when a truck is behind them, and the silhouette of the cycle tends to get swallowed up in the front end of the truck.) I've noticed on the highway, on a sunny day, the cycle's headlights do not even show enough contrast of light that they would help see the cycle - same with their tiny turn signals and brake lights. My brother and my son both rode cycles for years, and I fretted over it, because I knew that even though they were careful, responsible people, they were at the mercy of others' vigilance sometimes. I find the same problem with people jogging or walking along the street or roadside wearing grey sweats, black outfits, etc. at night. They blend into the dark at the side of the road, so drivers must be cautious, because they don't all walk facing oncoming traffic, as they should do. "

 Progress report wrote on May 22, 2008 10:22 pm:
" The progress report was obviously a work of fiction. Why Afghanistan? Why? Well possibly because Al Qaeda is stronger than they were 7 years and have done so as a result of our iraq policies. If you want to go after those responsible (Bin Laden and co.) for 9/11 thats the place.

And on the Pakistan comment your boy George did the exact same thing Obama talked about this year. "

 anon wrote on May 23, 2008 10:20 am:
" Yes, he was talking about Obama.

Here is youtube link to a CNN report by Ed Henry saying the whitehouse
admits Bush's speech refered to Obama, as well as others:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjIfeNEk1gU

The headline:

Pres. Bush on Obama
suggests candidate wants appeasement. "

 Another Progress Report wrote on May 23, 2008 12:41 pm:
" Allow me a retort to my detractors:
First our economy has yet to collapse unless you can show me wide spread use of the barter system. True we are experiencing a corrective downturn as it is known as the business cycle.Contrary to popular belief there are no "blue skies" forever in the business world.Second Al-Qaida wanted to draw us into Afghanistan under the belief that it was there that they could defeat us much like they did with the USSR...this is a known fact.They (the terrorist) were enbolden when the Clinton adminstation failed in Somalia and lacked the commitment to engage and defeat them there....another known fact.Third I'll stand by my use of murderous physcopath's when these terrorists slash the throats of noncombatants on internet websites,murder journalists,use mentally challanged people as suscide bobmers as well as 10 year old kids...yeah those are real freedom fighters.Fourth maybe NS missed it but the majority of the Iraqi people turned against al-Qaida over a year ago.Check on the political progress in the form of coperation amoungst the Suni's, shiites,kurds that continues.As far as the lame claim of the U.S. creating future terrorist in the area how many have we prevented?? When a 2,000 pound bomb falls on a coward like the former leader of al-qaida in Iraqi do you really believe that increases the ranks of the terrorists???
I'll challange the lefties again......what goals have the terrorists achieved??? What major sucesses can they point to???....none!
So if Mr.Obama and the lefties want to continue to label the war in Iraqi as a diasaster then it therefore follows that there has to be some MAJOR terrorists acheivements somewhere by the terrorists.

"

 Always a mystery... wrote on May 23, 2008 12:59 pm:
" ...why you all keep calling it a "War" still to this day. What war? ...against what army? Iraq attacked us how? "

 rxwoman wrote on May 24, 2008 5:54 pm:
" Progress Report, I have a question..how exactly do you know that the "terrorist" were emboldened by Clinton's actions? Who's to say they are not emboldened by the fact that Bush has a double digit IQ? Or that everything he does results in complete disaster? Did the "terrorists" tell you that they were emboldened by Clinton? Or is this just more right-wing nonsense designed to place blame on Clinton for everything under the sun?
Unless you are a mind reader, you don't know. It's simply more baseless Clinton hate. Hate because he did such a good job as President, made the neo-cons look dumb, and proved all their predictions wrong (ie, raising the minimum wage will cause unemployment, raising taxes on the top 5% will ruin the economy, etc).
Nice try, though. "

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