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BY MELISSA LEE / Lincoln Journal Star

Sunday, Apr 20, 2008 - 01:10:46 am CDT

His was the kind of high school resume that stands out.

A 3.58 grade-point average. 1480 on the SAT. National Honor Society member. Longtime baritone player in the band.

The potential to be the first in his family to finish college.

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Josh Lopez, a UNL freshman from El Paso, Texas, is studying secondary math education. He says had he known there was going to be an effort to end affirmative action in Nebraska, he likely would have gone elsewhere. (William Lauer)

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A ban on affirmative action would mean UNL would have to re-evaluate certain recruiting events. (Hilary Kindschuh / Lincoln Journal Star)...

It’s hardly surprising that the University of Nebraska-Lincoln — along with a host of other colleges — quickly added El Paso, Texas, native Josh Lopez’s name to their recruiting lists.

Lopez, eager to explore his out-of-state options, returned UNL’s interest. Lincoln, he remembers, had the city feel and downtown campus he was looking for. And he was impressed by the rising average ACT score of UNL’s entering students, a sign, he believed, the university’s academic profile was on its way up.

UNL offered Lopez a National Hispanic Scholarship, an award that would help pay his tuition and fees.

Lopez accepted. He’s now on the verge of completing his first year at UNL as a secondary math education major.

Now, rewind a year.

Say Nebraska had had a ban on race- and gender-based affirmative action, a measure that could be on the November ballot. Would Lopez still have chosen UNL?

Let’s just say Nebraska’s loss would have been another state’s gain.

“I was getting better offers from other universities — Ball State, Arizona, Oklahoma State. But I chose this university. I chose to come here.

“Having this going on, it definitely would have swayed my vote.”

Local, national debate growing

Many university leaders fear they’ll lose promising students like Lopez if Nebraska voters approve a ban on racial and gender preferences in admissions and hiring this fall.

The ban, sponsored by the controversially named Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative, will appear on the Nov. 4 ballot if affirmative action opponents gather enough petition signatures — about 115,000 — by July 4.

They are confident they will, though they won’t say exactly how many signatures they have thus far.

Further, they’re confident that if the issue gets on the ballot, Nebraska voters will swing their way.

“Affirmative action had a good purpose … but affirmative action changed,” says Ward Connerly, a California businessman and chairman of the American Civil Rights Initiative, the national effort to end race and gender preferences.

The effort has been successful in three states and has targeted five more this year.

“Over the years, it became a cure as bad as the disease (of racism). It became OK to discriminate against whites and males,” Connerly says.

Americans, he says, are ready to move past issues of race and gender — and they’re proving it by narrowing their choices for the Democratic presidential nominee to a black man and a woman.

“It is foolish to keep applying race to public policy,” says Connerly, who is black.

Some people disagree — passionately.

As petitioners continue to collect signatures outside grocery stores, post offices and on the streets, students and other activists have joined forces in support of affirmative action, a practice they believe is still necessary four decades after the Civil Rights and women’s movements.

Ending affirmative action now, some say, would endanger university recruiting programs aimed at minorities, put diversity-based scholarships like Lopez’s at risk and send a message to out-of-staters that Nebraska isn’t a friendly place for minorities.

Well aware that when Connerly’s supporters succeed in getting the affirmative-action ban on states’ ballots, they enjoy a 100 percent success rate on Election Day, some people at the university want to send a message — loudly and clearly — to Nebraskans approached by petitioners: Decline to sign.

“The idea that we would limit the opportunity for people to go to school is disheartening,” says Eva Sohl, a UNL senior from Lincoln whose grandfather came to the United States from Mexico.

Sohl is the recipient of several UNL awards for which diversity is a factor, including the Nebraska Achievement and Larson scholarships.

Without them, she says she’d still be in school but much deeper into debt, and she’d be forced to give up community service so she could work.

Sohl believes a myth exists that UNL hands out scholarships to undeserving minorities, a myth she says is fueled by Nebraskans’ sensitivity to immigration issues.

That idea, she says, is hurtful and inaccurate. Sohl says scholarships like hers benefit the entire university community by introducing students to people from different backgrounds, in turn preparing them to enter a global work force.

“You need to be able to interact with others,” she says. “If you don’t know how to communicate with people, if you just try to eliminate the idea that we’re all individuals, we’re just going to hinder the idea of success.”

Too much affirmative action?

Some people believe UNL’s use of affirmative action has gone too far.

They note that the school has a number of recruiting events and scholarship programs that target certain racial or ethnic groups, including:

* Native American College Day, held just this Wednesday on campus

* Leadership conferences for promising black and Hispanic high schoolers

* An outreach effort to Hispanic families called “Nuestra Familia, Nuestra Universidad,” or “Our Family, Our University”

* Rising Stars Banquet, which honors top high school students of color from the Nebraska Panhandle

* Multicultural Red Letter Days, a branch of UNL’s traditional Red Letter Days, that include the same campus tours and informational sessions but also seeks to address unique concerns of minorities

* Davis-Chambers Scholarship, which covers the full cost of attendance for top minority students

* Native American Heritage and Tribal College scholarships, which help cover tuition costs of qualifying Native students

* Health Sciences Scholarship, which offers freshman tuition support for underrepresented students 

* Summer Institute for Promising Scholars, a six-week, pre-college program for minority and first-generation students that covers their summer tuition plus $1,000 for their freshman year.

University leaders say all of those programs and more would be in danger if affirmative action were outlawed.

But affirmative action opponents say the efforts amount to little more than race-based preferential treatment.

Further, they accuse UNL of engaging in scare tactics. If affirmative action were banned, they say, UNL would still be free to recruit minorities. It simply would have to open all recruiting events and scholarships to all students.

“We can do outreach,” says chemistry professor Gerard Harbison. “We just can’t do outreach based on race.”

Harbison and Connerly say diversity has become a buzzword that implies a certain racial mix.

If UNL truly cared about all kinds of diversity, Harbison says, the university would try harder to recruit all underrepresented groups — Republican faculty, for example.

He’s unconvinced racial diversity is a plus in an academic setting.

“There’s no black perspective on chemical thermodynamics,” he says. “Thermodynamics don’t care what color you are.”

Supporters of affirmative action maintain the university must make an effort to recruit historically underrepresented groups to ensure those students find a path to college.

If it does not, UNL leaders fear the progress they’ve made in diversifying their student body — 9.42 percent of students this year are students of color, a new high but still far behind peer institutions — will stall or even reverse as fewer minorities gain access to UNL and out-of-state minorities choose other states they perceive to be more supportive of diversity.

That perception — accurate or not — is among UNL Chancellor Harvey Perlman’s chief worries.

“That’s the problem — the message,” he says.

He and others point out that UNL has no enrollment cap and a standard set of admission requirements, meaning no student who is academically qualified is turned away.

And although the university does give out some scholarships that take diversity into consideration, there aren’t many, notes Craig Munier, director of scholarships and financial aid.

Of about $36.5 million in scholarship dollars handed out this academic year, $2.3 million, or 6.3 percent, are partially based on diversity, according to Munier’s office.

Moreover, all scholarships are based on academic merit, he says. And many of the most prestigious awards, like the full-tuition Regents Scholarship, go almost exclusively to whites and Asians.

“(Affirmative action) opponents think there’s all kinds of money they’re not getting to compete for,” Munier says.

Numerically, that isn’t the case.

But opponents maintain that any racial preference, no matter how rare, is wrong.

Diversity-based scholarships could and should be reformulated into income-based scholarships, says UNL management professor Marc Schniederjans, who is treasurer of the Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative.

Many low-income students come from underrepresented racial groups, so the university still would reach minorities without specifically targeting them, Schniederjans says.

“This is a way of directly giving back without discriminating on race and gender.”

As it stands now, if an affirmative-action ban passes, UNL officials aren’t sure how they would re-evaluate or reconfigure diversity-based scholarships.

Perlman and Munier doubt scholarships already awarded could be taken away from students like Lopez and Sohl.

Future students may not be as lucky.

“There are a lot of unknowns,” Munier says.

‘This is not Nebraskans’

Meanwhile, Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative allies now have less than three months to gather the petition signatures they need.

An unusually long and harsh winter slowed the process slightly, Schniederjans says, but now that temperatures are rising, he foresees no obstacles to reaching the goal of 115,000.

Nebraskans, he says, largely are reacting favorably when approached by petitioners.

Some petitioners are volunteers. Others get paid about $2.50 a signature.

They typically begin by asking passers-by whether they want to end discrimination.

Some go on to cite the recent promotion of Lincoln firefighter Jeanne Pashalek to deputy fire chief as an example of race and gender preference. The story is featured prominently on the Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative Web site.

Five male Lincoln firefighters have sued the city over Pashalek’s promotion, saying they ranked higher than she did on the department’s promotional list and that she was chosen because she’s a woman.

The Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative, petitioners tell passers-by, will help ensure gender and racial equality. They then ask for a signature.

Critics say the process is misleading to voters who may actually think they’re signing in support of affirmative action.

Voters are further led astray, critics say, by the initiative’s name, which seems to align itself with the civil rights movement, and by the fact the initiative’s ballot language asks voters to end racial and gender preferences without explicitly mentioning affirmative action.

Shirley Wilcher, executive director of the Washington, D.C.-based American Association for Affirmative Action, believes fewer voters would sign if they knew they were signing to end affirmative action.

“We’ve got to correct the record,” she says. “The language is so confusing to voters. They never use the words ‘affirmative action.’”

Schniederjans says the initiative’s ballot language is anything but misleading.

Ending discrimination is exactly what the Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative aims to do, and voters deserve to know as much, he says.

“Look at the objective,” he says. “What are we talking about? A third-grade education? If people get confused on that, it’s pretty bad.”

He does acknowledge the Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative is largely funded by non-Nebraskans.

According to the Nebraska Accountability and Disclosure Commission, of the nearly $57,000 the initiative has raised so far, $50,000 came from Paul Singer, a New York businessman who was a major donor to the presidential campaigns of George W. Bush and Rudy Giuliani.

Schniederjans has kicked in another $100, according to reports filed with the commission.

Many Nebraskans have made smaller donations, Schniederjans says.

Critics don’t think Connerly or Singer should try to shape Nebraska public policy.

“This thing is outsourced. This really is an out-of-state effort,” says Nic Swiercek, a UNL senior and vice president of Students United for Nebraska, which is fighting the Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative.

“This is not Nebraskans.”

Connerly’s response: Ending affirmative action is simply something he’s passionate about.

“Let the people decide. They don’t have to approve this,” he says. “I would never presume to come in here and say what your tax policy should be.

“My name won’t be anywhere on that ballot.”

What’s happened elsewhere

Thus far, American voters largely are responding favorably to Connerly’s efforts.

In California, where Connerly was a University of California regent for 12 years, voters ended affirmative action by a 54 percent majority in 1996.

Two years later, Connerly allies got an affirmative action ban on the ballot in Washington, and voters passed it by a 58 percent majority.

And in 2006, voters in Michigan passed the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative by a 58 percent majority.

Immediately after the California initiative passed, the University of California reported significant drops in black and Hispanic enrollment at its two most prestigious campuses, Los Angeles and Berkeley.

Asian enrollment, meanwhile, rose sharply.

To Connerly, that’s evidence of a severe performance gap between Asian and white students and black and Hispanic students.

“We’re never going to solve that gap as long as there’s a mandate over it,” he says.

Instead of affirmative action at the college level, Connerly says academic performance gaps must be addressed early and often: Parents should read more to their children, for example, and elementary, middle and high schools must do a better job of preparing students for college.

And in lieu of race-based scholarships, universities should pour more money into aid for low-income students, he says.

“I am guided by the moral principle that every American deserves equal treatment,” he says. “Affirmative action is about applying different standards to people.”

Along with Nebraska, the American Civil Rights Initiative hoped to end affirmative action in Arizona, Colorado, Missouri and Oklahoma this year.

But earlier this month, allies of the Oklahoma Civil Rights Initiative were forced to withdraw their petition after the secretary of state discovered inconsistencies in the signature-gathering process, including numerous duplicate signatures.

Schniederjans says he’s disappointed in the Oklahoma result but hopes petitioners there will come to Nebraska to ensure success here.

His opponents, on the other hand, have renewed hope an affirmative action ban won’t make it onto Nebraska ballots.

“It’s very hopeful that groups are able to defeat this thing,” says Swiercek of Students United for Nebraska.

The future: Men at risk, too?

Affirmative action supporters want to make clear they’re focused on more than creating opportunities for racial minorities.

Gender equality is critical, too, they say, whether it’s recruiting more women to engineering programs or more men to nursing.

And in the future, it’s men — not women — who may need extra help.

TIME magazine reported this month that women continue to outpace men in entering and finishing college, leaving some American universities scrambling for a gender balance. Clark University in Massachusetts, for example, offers a “men helping men” support program, and Kenyon College in Ohio has lower admissions standards for men.

UNL’s gender split is even, but that’s likely to change in coming years, says admissions dean Alan Cerveny.

Admissions staff members have met to consider what they can do to recruit men, he says.

“Ironically,” he says, “if this (affirmative action ban) goes through, that would be illegal.”

Nebraska Civil Rights Initiative allies continue to believe all race- and gender-based programs are discriminatory.

Others believe affirmative action means equality, not preferential treatment.

Wilcher, of the American Association for Affirmative Action, thinks it’s far too early to end a practice she believes ensures quality minority candidates are considered for jobs and admissions.

It will take generations, she says, for institutional racism and sexism to fade completely.

In the meantime, Wilcher fears if the American Civil Rights Initiative is successful, the nation’s future leaders won’t reflect a diverse population.

For instance: A black colleague recently took her son to a doctor for a checkup.

The doctor noticed the boy’s arms appeared ashy and suspected he had a skin condition, Wilcher says.

But dryness simply shows up more easily on dark skin. All the boy needed was some lotion.

Wilcher was shocked the doctor didn’t know as much.

That, she says, is why affirmative action still is necessary.

“We’re not talking about students who can’t get the job done,” Wilcher says. “We’re not talking about lawyers who can’t pass the bar. We’re not talking about physicians who can’t get certified.

“Affirmative action means people who are qualified are considered. You can’t close the door at this point. You can’t just pull the rug out from under us after only 40 years.”

Reach Melissa Lee at 473-2682 or mlee@journalstar.com.


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More Hypocrisy... wrote on April 20, 2008 5:44 am:
" This is more of the same old Bush-era hogwash of trying to confuse voters with deceptively named scams. There have been so many lately: the Blue Sky Initiative, Mission Accomplished, No Child Left Behind, the so-called "surge," etc. George Bush ran for president in 2000 as a "compassionate conservative." Sheeshh! This initiative also reminds me of the attempts a couple of years ago by out of state monied interests to influence voters to allow gambling in Nebraska. Fortunately, Nebraska voters saw through that one, as I hope they will see through this. We don't need the likes of Ward Connerly here; please go back to California, sir.

Also, a note to Gerard Harbison: get over the outrage about fewer Republican faculty members at UNL. Are you advocating that there should be an initiative put in place to recruit more conservative-leaning professors? Me thinks that would be a tad bit hypocritical... Besides, if we are going to start trying to balance out the political leanings of faculty in academia, then we better start doing the same thing in the business world. Good luck with that one, professor!


"

DOC wrote on April 20, 2008 6:09 am:
" Okay Class, where do I sign? Affirmative Action is slavery. It preaches average. It preaches, we are victims. When you get on the airplane, do you want the pilot to be the one that can fly the best or one that was hired because of a quota? Personally, I don't care if he is green as long as the flight doesn't make me the same. "

A Proud Black Man wrote on April 20, 2008 8:15 am:
" I hope that Nebraskans see through the smoke and mirrors of this campaign. Discrimination still exists and is prominent moreso in Nebraska than elsewhere. Although you (Melissa Lee) presented a thinly veiled attempt at being neutral, the slant of your article is indicative of what a number of Nebraskans want -- if we eliminate Affirmative Action, maybe our racial problems will simply go away. Better yet, we will at least have fewer educated minoritie at UNL to challenge our thinking. Shame on you, and shame on the folks promoting this initiaive. I firmly believe that Nebraskans will not "do the right thing" with race unless they are forced to do so. As such, I hope that people use good judgement with regards to this initiative. In the infamous words of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, I hope Nebraskans will "JUST SAY NO!" to ending Affirmative Action. Please do not sign these petitions. "

Okie wrote on April 20, 2008 8:20 am:
" No, we Okies (that's Indian Territory for you Cornhuskers)will not be coming to Nebraska to ensure success. We have already succeeded. "

Al wrote on April 20, 2008 8:23 am:
" Where can I sign the petition? This is great. AA is archaic. "

Question wrote on April 20, 2008 8:24 am:
"

I'd be curious to know, do historically black colleges offer scholarships and programs to recruit white students? Do all female colleges have programs to recruit male students? Should Christian schools be required to offer Hundu students scholarships? Would that not bring needed diverstiy to those campuses? "

John B. wrote on April 20, 2008 8:38 am:
" What's all the fuss?
White women benefit more from affirmative action than any other group. "

Mark wrote on April 20, 2008 8:45 am:
" AA discriminates against white males. An old saying at UNL is "whites need not apply." "

Ted wrote on April 20, 2008 8:49 am:
" Harbison should realize that the college experience is NOT just about what's learned in the classroom. A diverse campus benefits all of the growth and education that students receive through their engagement in student life. Working with others who are different than you, being exposed to other points of view that come from different perspectives. Those are lessons that any successful individual in any field knows, and can't be taught in a lab, lecture, or book...but only through experience. Experience that is had on a diverse college campus. And lets not focus too much on race...gender may turn out to be the biggest victim of this backwards movement, for both women AND men. "

Equal Protection For Whom wrote on April 20, 2008 9:20 am:
" These programs not only raise grave constitutional questions, they also undermine the moral basis of the equal protection principle. Purchased at the price of immeasurable human suffering, the equal protection principle reflects our Nation's understanding that such classifications ultimately have a destructive impact on the individual and our society. Unquestionably, “invidious racial discrimination is an engine of oppression.” It is also true that “remedial” racial preferences may reflect “a desire to foster equality in society.” But there can be no doubt that racial paternalism and its unintended consequences can be as poisonous and pernicious as any other form of discrimination. So-called “benign” discrimination teaches many that because of chronic and apparently immutable handicaps, minorities cannot compete with them without their patronizing indulgence. Inevitably, such programs engender attitudes of superiority or, alternatively, provoke resentment among those who believe that they have been wronged by the government's use of race. These programs stamp minorities with a badge of inferiority and may cause them to develop dependencies or to adopt an attitude that they are “entitled” to preferences. "

Lars wrote on April 20, 2008 9:44 am:
" Affirmative action should include helping business create more jobs and cutting taxes so more people can afford to live here. Companies hire the best qualified applicants. "

first step wrote on April 20, 2008 9:56 am:
" AA is a wonderful and neccessary program. It serves as a first step in leveling what has been a white , male dominated, unfair world. How fitting that the LJS prints this article on the day that a woman (Danica Patrick) smashes the male dominated world of racing and wins a race.

Not only should AA continue, but it should be a gateway to the next steps of reparations for slaves as well as requirements for proportional represenation of women and minorities in our political bodies. "

CS wrote on April 20, 2008 10:25 am:
" College is a privilege, not a right, so focusing on gender balance or racial balance if the only reason for doing so is because you can is waste of time and resources. If the college is doing what it is supposed to be doing and not actively dissuading men or minorities form attending, then there isn't any discrimination happening. The issue still needs to be voted on here, in this state, so the tired "out of state petition" arguments is just hot air. It will be on the ballot or it won't, it will win or it won't, and NE voters will still have to make the decision. I don't care if UNL is majority white-if you haven't noticed so is the state. The job of the U is to educate, not seek to force balance in a demographic or socio-economic spectrum. If their curriculum is where it should be they will attract students. If the students can't hack the entrance exam they don't need to be there. "

time to move on wrote on April 20, 2008 11:02 am:
" As a white male college student, I would sign in a heartbeat. I will be applying to Physical Therapy school in the next year and affirmative action puts me at a disadvantage. I've had a doctor tell me straight out that he would give me a recommendation and he told me that if I was a minority I would be a shoe in. As a country we're never going to get over looking at race and gender if we continually discriminate because of affirmative action. It's time to move on where everybody is equal. Do you think that if I had applied to out-of-state schools I would been given the opportunity like Mr. Lopez to go to school for free there. NO, I would of had to pay the out-of-state tuition because I wouldn't of been eligible for any scholarships like Mr. Lopez received from UNL. "

Won't sign wrote on April 20, 2008 1:54 pm:
" This is one white Nebraskan male that will not sign this. I used to be opposed to AA, but have come to the conclusion in recent years that it is still necessary. "

Jeff wrote on April 20, 2008 2:21 pm:
" I'm glad that Mr. Lopez is the first of his family to attend college. I'm glad that he's gotten a scholarship. But to get scholarships from across the country for his major as a secondary school math teacher? Tuition to a school in his home state would be enough. I'm not sure we can claim any significant benefits to Nebraska by having him on campus. We've got a lot of kids here in Nebraska that had better grades and are probably racking up student loans just to attend in-state college. Let's not overstate the benefits of another talented secondary math teacher. Not knocking teachers here, just saying I'm not aware of a massive shortage of math teachers in secondary school. Having said all of that, I will not sign the petition. We've got to get minority kids going in higher education. It's a win win for all of society if we do. "

brian wrote on April 20, 2008 2:39 pm:
" ok, as far as danica patrick smashing the racig world by winning, congratulations to her. she has proven she has the talent to suceed in that sport. but did she get an extra two second cushion that the competition didnt receive? or did she win on her own, based on her own talent and the team supporting her? apparently, affirmative action had nothing to do with that win, and it did not cheapen her achievement. staying with the sports analogy, should we force NFL teams to start a certain percentage of white players? or hispanics, asians and women? or should the best player play? how about a scholarship for white students? we can call it the young white natural born citizen scholarship. you can see who it would obviously apply too. or is that racist, because it only could apply to a certain body of students defined by race? it cuts both ways here people. if i cant get a scholarship because im white, how is that providing equality? two wrongs dont make it right, im sure we all learned that growing up. apparently it just matters on who the wrong is done too. "

Long past time wrote on April 20, 2008 2:50 pm:
" It is long past time to end preferences. They have become absurd. Of course some kid comes to Nebraska from elsewhere, when we give him taxpayer money because of his race! Sign the Civil Rights Initiative petition, donate money, and vote for the petition in November. "

Shafted wrote on April 20, 2008 2:52 pm:
" Yes, UNL uses their enlightened (plainclothes even!!) cops to collect affirmative action data.
Just the plum institution promising students should dream about attending. You may be spending more days in court in Lancaster County than in
class or teaching, and hardly for just or honest reasons.
"

JJ wrote on April 20, 2008 2:55 pm:
" "Sohl is the recipient of several UNL awards for which diversity is a factor, including the Nebraska Achievement and Larson scholarships.

Without them, she says she’d still be in school but much deeper into debt, and she’d be forced to give up community service so she could work."

Hey, guess what. My wife and I have a ton of debt from school. We are both white and had good grades and were active in the school. Are we less deserving because we are white? "

E Jr wrote on April 20, 2008 3:07 pm:
" Speaking from experience as a lifeling white male, being white is rarely a disadvantage. I have been and probably will continue to be a beneficiary of white privilege. It's not fair, but that's the way it is, especially in Nebraska. Affirmative action is necessary to ferret out the discrimination embedded in our culture. "

Motivation? wrote on April 20, 2008 3:07 pm:
" I'm curious about the motivation of those supporting this in the state of Nebraska. I'd like to think they're just against any and all discrimination and what everyone to have equal opportunity. Although looking at the bar graph in today's paper that showed just how rare race-based scholarships are given, this seems like an odd approach. Not to mention that the senator who proposed this amendment in the legislature voted against adding sexual orientation to something you can discriminate against - so claiming you're against discrimination after that just seems highly disingenuous. "

Hjalmer wrote on April 20, 2008 4:39 pm:
" The only qualified people leaving Nebraska faster than white college graduates are minority race college graduates. If this State is to have any future it has to becoming more welcoming to all people. If you haven't noticed, there is huge demographic and ethnic transformation taking place in this State. We need to turn that change into a resource this State can build from. We need to keep affirmative action in place to build the skilled supply of labor and professionals that this State must have. "

David wrote on April 20, 2008 5:09 pm:
" affirmative action is racist, by definition. bring back the meritocracy. "

Floridian wrote on April 20, 2008 5:40 pm:
" Although Jeb Bush was a horrible governor here, the one good thing he did was get rid of affirmative action. Now everyone can compete on an even level. Just think, while Josh got his minority scholarship, there was probably a non-minority person with a 1600 on his SAT and a 4.0 who did not get one. My son is hispanic and he will NEVER check that box on anything that would unfairly advantage him over someone else simply because of race. "

Ralph Thomas wrote on April 20, 2008 5:56 pm:
" For those who mistakenly believe that Affirmative Action is outdated, or for some, discriminatory, have you seen the statistics on the police stops, searches, etc.? That doesn't say that minorities commit the most crimes, it states clearly through the numbers, that minorities are targeted because of that belief. Nothing more, nothing less. If the playing field isn't made somewhat equal through laws such as Affirmative Action, then the brightest and boldest will be replaced by the children of the affluent only. "

Wanda wrote on April 20, 2008 6:35 pm:
" This issue has far more to do with generating a larger Republican turnout for John McCain than concerns about affirmative action. Why is it that every four years (presidential election yars), we seem to have one of these emotionial hot-button isues on the ballot. Remember the anti-gay marriage constitutional amendment? The GOP knows it has a canddiate that is too old (older than Ronald Reagan) to be an effective president and doesn't have the proper credentials as a social conservative to motivate the base to go to the polls. So, here we have another out-of-stater attempting to meddle with the Nebraska constitution. Seriously, have a few generations of affirmative action made up for hundreds of years of servitude and discrimination -- the first slave ship arrived in the colonies in 1609. Here in lily white, male-dominated Nebraska, I pity men who don't think they can -- or should have to -- compete with minorities and women. "

LJE wrote on April 20, 2008 6:57 pm:
" The National Hispanic Scholar Recognition Program names high school seniors as National Hispanic Scholars based on their PSAT scores and their GPA. It's done through College Board, the same company that names the National Merit Scholars. There is no scholarship that comes along with being recognized as a National Hispanic Scholar, rather university decides how much money (if any) the student should receive. Some pay tuition and fees (such as UNL) and others provide a full ride (tuition & fees/room & board).

As a fellow National Hispanic Scholar, I just wanted to clarify the designation. "

JPB wrote on April 20, 2008 7:17 pm:
" I am of the opinion if a person has a high GPA, high standardized test scores, a high class rank, and scholarships/tuition, that person can choose his/her college or university. The bottom line: with or without affirmative action, a student who desires higher education can achieve higher education. In Mr. Lopez' case, he could have chosen another school and still gotten what he desired... a college degree.
Higher education is earned...not a privilege. "

Zoomie wrote on April 20, 2008 7:29 pm:
" Let's see...It's indisputable public schools are split into haves and have-nots based mostly on race. Result - mostly black/Hispanic schools offer far worse education (and educational opportunities) than mostly white neighborhood schools. So minority kids compete for college scholarships and seats at a distinct disadvantage right up front. But we don't need to take this into account? And is anyone seriously trying to claim AA has worked? Gee, its only 143 years since slavery ended and we've had how many Black Governors so far? THREE! One back in Reconstruction, one in Mass just two years ago, and one "promoted" to the position when the elected Governor resigned (NY) a couple months ago! Gee, that full equality thing is just working so well! NOT! "

Level Playing Field? wrote on April 20, 2008 7:38 pm:
" There is no such thing in higher education. We live in a meritocracy. People are rewarded as a result of educational attributes.
AA should not serve as the last resort for some underserving students or to satisfy number preferences. "

Matt wrote on April 20, 2008 8:19 pm:
" Zoomie, I beg your pardon but IT IS disputable. The "haves" and "have nots" are NOT primarily separated because of race...they are separated because of economics. You're right in the sense that these minority groups tend to be under more economic pressure, however should the solution be to to reward because of "race?" Why not turn the affirmative action question around and award because only of economic disadvantage? There are plenty of whites and asians who are in poverty and there are plenty of affluent blacks and hispanics.

We should quit attacking the problem so cosmetically and actually look at the root cause. Its the economic situation that is controlling here...not the color of their skin.

Here is an example. Say you have two candidates for scholarhip money. One is poor white kid from rural Nebraska. The other kid is a wealthy black kid from an affluent Omaha family. Do you truly think it is more just to provide the black student with a scholarhip and deny the poor white farm kid with no such opportunity?

Again, there are plenty of blacks and hispanics that suffer economically, that is completely uncontested by me. I am simply suggesting that we start paying attention to the proper parameter, as opposed to the color of their skin.

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Zoomie wrote on April 20, 2008 8:35 pm:
" JPB - in California (a far more liberal and supportive state where public universities are concerned), competition for available university openings is so fierce, not only are GPA and SAT/ACT scores considered, but also required are AP tests. Only problem is, mostly white suburb HS's offer on average 6-8 different AP subjects per term; mostly black/hispanic inner city schools only offer 1-3 subjects per term. Result? White students have more qualifications than black students, even when ALL ELSE is equal. And since the Universities are now barred from considering race under AA, since it was done away with the number of black students gaining university admission is down dramatically (while white rates have risen). If you look ONLY at the qualification at the time of application, but ignore the inequalities in the years of preparation, you guarantee racism will continue unabated. Just saying its gone doesn't make it so. "

brian wrote on April 20, 2008 8:50 pm:
" i love it when people try to use an elected political office to say we need affirmative action. case in point--

Gee, its only 143 years since slavery ended and we've had how many Black Governors so far? THREE! One back in Reconstruction, one in Mass just two years ago, and one "promoted" to the position when the elected Governor resigned (NY) a couple months ago! Gee, that full equality thing is just working so well! NOT! "

the fact that a black person either chooses not to run, or is not elected by the people does not automatically signal racism. how many presidents of the naacp have been white? very few, if any, im sure. must be racism, plain and simple. get rid of this archaic system, and let people succeed or fail on their own. one of the main reasons race is such a problem is because people still use it to divide people. affirmative action is a dividing factor.
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whatever wrote on April 20, 2008 9:01 pm:
" If you support affirmative action you are are a racist pure and simple. Any other argument is intellectually and morally dishonest. I have children and they see beyond the " color barrior" as do their friends who are people of color. Merit is the only way to judge people. If there is an issue it's an issue of culture not color and no law on the books can correct that. "

NO WAY wrote on April 20, 2008 9:01 pm:
" The comments I'm reading only make it that much clearer that AA is still needed in this state. It is apparent that racism still exists and that the "best" candidate is the white home-grown guy. FYI - I'm a white female and I want to get a job based on my ability, which I have done. However, I hear people talk and they think the only reason blacks have jobs is becase of AA. That's nuts. This state and its people (mine included) have no concept of diversity. I sincerely hope that AA doesn't go away just yet. We're not ready to be objective, obviously. "

Jon Crowe wrote on April 20, 2008 9:03 pm:
" If we are going to have affirmative action, why not go all out? How about basketball teams adhere to affirmative action so that more white player would be on the teams? Oh wait, wouldn't people call that racism? You hire people, accept people, give people scholorships because they are the best qualified. If you do so based on someone's ethnicity, it is racial and ethnic discrimination. I don't know why this is so hard to see. It is like the people that still support affirmative action are just affraid to admit this fact because they fear they will be deamed a racist. I can't blame them really when even Ward Connerly, a black man, gets jeered and asked if he is affiliated with the kkk while speaking at UNL. Imagine if Hillary or Obama got spotted 10 percentage points in the election because of race or gender, first off wouldn't that be insulting? and second off how rediculous does that sound? Something is wrong when the people who are against racial preferences are deemed "racist." "

John B. wrote on April 20, 2008 9:28 pm:
" I have taught in urban and suburban high schools, was educated in public schools during integration in the 70's (which was a complete failure...another discussion at another time), and graduated from public AND private universities using scholarships, grants, and paying out of my own pocket...and was NOT admitted via AA.

AA has run it's course. People who value education will obtain college degrees. The "haves and have-nots" exist because some people in some groups don't value education while others do. Believe me, those in the poorest of schools who want to attend college DO attend college and these students don't need AA to assist them. I always suggest applying for more scholarships than feasible because it's likely a student won't get every scholarship that's applied for. Schools want the best and brightest...not those not likely to graduate from college.

Mostly black/Hispanic schools don't offer worse educational opportunities; some black and Hispanic people and their families do not value free, public education...I've seen it with my own eyes. "

It's its wrote on April 20, 2008 10:07 pm:
" John B. You were "educated" but didn't learn how to use the possessive "its." There is no apostrophe. Let's keep AA and spread the word. "

Math Teacher wrote on April 20, 2008 10:10 pm:
" Jeff, I'm glad you won't sign the petition, but I want you to know that there actually is a shortage of secondary math teachers, and it will grow much larger in the next 10 years. "

AA is not quotas wrote on April 20, 2008 10:14 pm:
" For the last time, AA does not mean quotas. The way UNL is using "AA" is to recruit and retain under-represented minorities. All institutions will benefit from this, as will the entire state when more of its members are given educational opportunities. No one loses a spot to another if he or she is qualified to begin with. No individual can be considered a "shoo in" no matter what their race. Please don't sign this ridiculous petition brought to us by a wealthy racist from California. "

Arrogance wrote on April 20, 2008 10:14 pm:
" At this point affirmative action is all about white guilt and white arrogance. They feel bad about discrimination and want to do something to help. On the other hand, how arrogant is it that they are telling people of color that the only way they are going to complete is if they are given a leg up?
Affirmative action has been around since the early 1960s - more than forty years. Either it worked and is no longer needed, or it didn’t work and will never work, and needs to be ended.
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rac wrote on April 20, 2008 10:58 pm:
" "Only problem is, mostly white suburb HS's offer on average 6-8 different AP subjects per term; mostly black/hispanic inner city schools only offer 1-3 subjects per term."

So why is that? What does that have to do with AA? Is that not more of a problem as to how "black schools" are run? More arguments by liberals by bending numbers and pretending to portray the "facts". Sorry, it is "disuputeable".

I'll sign this as soon as I see one. I'm not a quota fan; if people want equality they can put there qualifications out there and if they merit getting hired, they will.
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Concerned wrote on April 20, 2008 11:50 pm:
" An examination of science departments at UNL shows there is still considerable work to be done both with respect to race and gender. No need to look further than the faculty listings in Dr. Harbison's department.

http://chem.unl.edu/faculty/alpha.shtml "

hurt Husker football wrote on April 20, 2008 11:52 pm:
" Would some of you opponents of AA be upset if the Huskers started losing recruits? What if some of our top prospects decided not to come to UNL because we banned AA at public universities? I bet it would make some of you think twice about signing the petition if you thought the Huskers would lose a couple of our best recruits to KU, OU, Texas, etc... every year. It would be a shame to watch the Husker football program die a slow death because some minorities thought they wouldn't be welcome here. Is this a likely scenario? Probably not, but do you really want to test it Husker fans? "

WAKE UP! wrote on April 21, 2008 12:25 am:
" I am a white male. I couldn't complete college because of financal hardship and my highschool stats make his look like crap. My parents farmed all of their lives and love this state. (Funding out of state students and ignoring our own students is a whole other topic.)

I have repeatedly been brushed aside in interviews and told outright they are looking for a woman or a minority to fill their quota. Where is the EQUAL opportunity in that?

Sign me up as a volunteer to collect signatures! "

Tired of Whining wrote on April 21, 2008 7:39 am:
" I could go on like everyone else about how I did or didn't get into colleges or programs based on my race and gender. However, I want to know why it is that talk of a state innitiative, a state law even, only seems to concern the University? When are you all going to wake up and believe me when I say that there is more to this state than UNL? If the course of events continues, Nebraska is going to be a state where all you find is colleges and teachers while every other state sends their students to learn and then come back and work. So, as far as I'm reading, this won't affect any other business or state organization at all... just the University? If that's the case, that the only problem with this innitiative is UNL, then maybe UNL needs to catch up with the rest of the state then? "

Ryan wrote on April 21, 2008 7:54 am:
" Isn't affirmative action racism against people too? Getting any kind of good or bad treatment because of your nationality or skin color is racism so doesn't this constitute racism? "

AA is a Mistake... wrote on April 21, 2008 8:34 am:
" and has been going back prior to Baake. Spread the word that affirmative action prevents deserving people from earned opportunites at the expense of less deserving people. Reward based on merit...not entitlement programs. "

Hmmm wrote on April 21, 2008 9:05 am:
" Can someone please explain why the Pashelek case is an instance of "Race Preferences in Action" as the NCRI has it labeled? Her race was the reason she was promoted? That doesn't make any sense. It would be nice if they could keep try to be accurate. "

Yup whatever wrote on April 21, 2008 9:06 am:
" Not letting white men be racist and sexist is totally racist. Give me a break. "

JPB wrote on April 21, 2008 9:17 am:
" Are you suggesting black student admissions are lower because fewer AP courses are taken in high school? If that is the case, AA can't remedy what is a problem at the HS level. Are "legacy admissions" taken into account?
It is safe to presume blacks or Hispanics who desire to attend college indeed go to college if their qualifications for admissions are met. This can be accomplished without AA. "

Jdub wrote on April 21, 2008 10:01 am:
" AA doesn't fix discrimination; it just points it in another direction. It is ridiculous that people still believe it is still a “good thing”. "

AA is racism wrote on April 21, 2008 11:02 am:
" Bottom Line: recruit and hire the most qualified, period; whether it's admittance for college or for a job in a corporation. Consider this:
When you or a loved one gets cancer or has an emergency, would you like the most qualified physician to treat you? Or would you be okay with an average one who took the spot of a more qualified individual based on race? "

Huh-UH! wrote on April 21, 2008 12:23 pm:
" These comments have to be coming from people that are NOT out there. Or you just choose not to see! First of all, affirmative action is not just about race. As a woman, I've felt discriminated against a time or two. Education is not necessarily a leg up. It should be valued, but around here it often seems to be viewed as an unnecessary snob thing. Whatever. I think it's--no, I know it is completely necessary. The arguments I am reading here are incredibly old. tell me something new, and I'll consider it, but I haven't read many comments (against AA) that indicate people are doing anything more than blowing hot air. "

E Jr wrote on April 21, 2008 12:33 pm:
" I am a white male who has been the beneficiary of racism my whole life. While there may be situations where a white male is at a disadvantage, there aren't many. Being white in Nebraska is an advantage is so many ways: employment, housing, credit, education, etc. "

Sam wrote on April 21, 2008 12:35 pm:
" I really don't think race should be a consideration at all. As a hispanic female, I don't want my race and gender to make me a better quota-filler than another person. My humanly instincts tell me we should each earn our spots in life regardless of the color of our spots. The only way to make it fair is to judge people based on the quality of their aptitudes, not on the quality of their attibutes. "

Trish wrote on April 21, 2008 1:03 pm:
" Regardless of what is decided on this issue now, in a few decades this point will become moot. As more and more young people become color blind and with the increase of interracial marriage and childbearing, who will really be able to claim they are only one "race?" If Affirmative Action is defeated now, it will only benefit those of who are wholly of one race. Which is then really not fair. I suspect that out of necessity, AA will be overturned, whether it is now, or in the future. If it does happen in the future, it will be out of necessity, rather than some of these impassioned feelings we have today "

Grundle wrote on April 21, 2008 3:36 pm:
" This statement truly confounded me, "Being white in Nebraska is an advantage is so many ways: employment, housing, credit, education, etc." Really?! I'm a white male in Nebraska, and I cannot see any situation where I've been a beneficiary of my skin color. I got my job because I was qualified, and because I worked hard as an intern to show my employer that I was dedicated. I qualified for the housing I utilize because I have an adequate (but by no means exorbitant) income and carefully control my expense. I have good credit because I pay my bills on time, and I don't borrow more than I can afford to pay back. As far as education goes, I searched high and low for scholarships that were available solely for white males, but much to my chagrin, there were none to be found. There were, however, scholarships meant solely for women, African-Americans, Latinos, and just about every other race imaginable...but none for me. I took the time to fill out the forms to receive federal aid, and worked hard to continue to qualify for the handful of scholarships that I could get. I don't remember ever stating my race on any of those scholarship applications. This 'white privilege' argument is a trash can full of poop...myself, like many individuals in many other races, have made it to where I am on hard work, honesty, and integrity. Affirmative action, on the other hand, fails to promote such values. "

Joe wrote on April 21, 2008 4:09 pm:
" I find it hard to believe that colleges and universities in this country that are lily white don't provide scholarships for only white people. "

good ole days wrote on April 21, 2008 4:22 pm:
" People should pay attention to what happened in others states when AA was forbidden. Minority and women owned businesses went out of business because they were no longer eligible for equal opportunities (not quotas and not preferential treatment but simply equal opportunities) to government contracts. Big business got them all and the smaller local companies couldn't get in the door. Programs offering health assistance to women or programs helping the female victims of domestic violence were challenged legally as discriminatory. Lawsuits are expensive and time-consuming and in some cases rather than fight, programs will simply be cancelled. Do you suppose these out-of-state republican leaders think Nebraskans are a pretty easy target to sway with th