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By MARK ANDERSEN / Lincoln Journal Star

Thursday, Jan 03, 2008 - 12:52:14 pm CST

Traffic laws say every driver must maintain control of his or her vehicle regardless of conditions.

In other words, slow down and anticipate problems.

But every winter starts with a little re-education.

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On Dec. 6, Lincoln police worked 161 wrecks on icy streets. Here’s a look at the numbers.

What crashed
  • Vast majority of wrecks involved two vehicles.
  • They included 124 cars, 44 SUVs, 34 pickups, 23 vans, 10 semis.
  • Average car damage: $1,433
  • Average SUV damage: $1,835
  • Average pickup damage: $1,365
  • Average van damage: $1,548
  • Average semi damage: $567
  • The typical car involved in a wreck was a 1999. About half ranged from 1998s to 2004s. About one-sixth were newer than that.
  • There were 45 Fords, 40 Chevys, 23 Dodges and 16 Hondas, along with other makes.
More younger drivers
  • 92 drivers aged 16 to 29.
  • 89 drivers aged 30-49.
  • 48 drivers were older than 50.
  • The median age of drivers cited was 29. The median age of those not cited was 35.
How we hit, what it cost
  • Rear-ending: Roughly a third of classifiable accidents involved vehicles running into the rear ends of other vehicles stopping or slowing in front of them. Average damage: $925.
  • Sliding through: Roughly a fourth involved vehicles sliding into an intersection to hit something or be hit. Average damage: $1,905.
  • Sliding over: Almost one-fifth involved vehicles spinning or sliding into another lane to hit something or be hit. Average damage: $1,445.
  • Sliding around: The remainder either slid into something while turning, or slid off the road without hitting another vehicle. Average damage when a vehicle lost control in a turn: $962. Average damage when a vehicle left road to hit a pole, sign, ditch: $2,572.
Men vs. women
  • 126 men and 109 women were in wrecks. Men were cited more often than women.
  • Men were more likely to leave the road, lose control while making a turn or spin into another lane.
  • Women were slightly more likely to slide into a car in front of them or slide into an intersection and get hit.
The law
  • Officers issued citations in 61 percent of wrecks involving vans, 53 percent involving cars, 48 percent involving SUVs, 40 percent involving semis and 34 percent involving pickups.
  • Median estimated damage in cases in which citations were issued: $1,200. Median estimated damage when citations were not issued: $1,000.
  • Most officers wrote one or two accident reports; 19 officers accounted for three or more.
  • Six officers who wrote three reports issued no citations, and one officer who wrote three reports issued three citations; one officer who wrote four reports wrote no citations. But one officer who wrote five reports issued citations in all five cases.
  • There were 17 hit-and-runs. 11 accidents resulted in injuries.
Crashing close to home
  • Roughly 20 percent wrecked within 1 mile of home.
  • Roughly 30 percent wrecked within 2 miles of home.
  • Roughly two thirds wrecked within 5 miles of home.
  • About 10 percent of Lincoln wrecks involved people more than 40 miles from home.

Newton’s law states that on the worst icy roads, a moving car will continue to move until it hits a pole or other vehicle, no matter what a driver does — or something to that effect.

At 7 a.m. on Dec. 6, the two laws battled for supremacy in the minds of 62 Lincoln police officers who would write reports on the 161 wrecks occurring on city streets over the next 14 hours.

That isn’t a record for the number of accidents in a single day, said Police Chief Tom Casady, but it was the greatest one-day tally in the past five years.

That day, roughly one in every 1,000 Lincoln residents would hit, bump or crunch something, giving body shop owners better Christmases at the expense of insurance companies and their customers.

Of the total collisions, citations would be issued in roughly half, adding $8,000 in traffic tickets to the day’s vehicle damage estimate of $363,600.

Just who got ticketed depended on a number of factors, including the responding officer, how busy officers were at the time, the type of accident, the amount of damage and the number of vehicles involved, according to a Journal Star analysis.

There remains enough inconsistency to state that for some people who got cited, this just wasn’t a lucky day — provided they had doubts after making a corner shot that involved bouncing a late-model SUV off two rails and kissing a road grader.

First, the caveats of the analysis.

While all reports were examined, not all of the day’s collisions generated reports; not all reports were complete; and not everyone cited went on to pay a fine.

Scott Evans of Lincoln, report No. 130552, was cited when his Dodge pickup slid slowly down an incline and into an intersection near 84th and O streets as he futilely flashed his lights and honked his horn to warn crossing drivers.

The young woman who hit him called her dad, who called police, who showed up 45 minutes later and gave Evans a ticket, apologetically explaining he probably could get it waived, Evans said.

It did cause him to wonder, “So why are you giving me one?”

What irked Evans most, he said, was that as the officer stood there, an exact replica of his accident occurred — and those two drivers exchanged insurance information and drove off.

Evans’s ticket did get waived.

Casady noted an officer’s report isn’t required unless there is an injury or damage to any vehicle exceeds $1,000.

Which may explain, he said, why some officers don’t issue citations during icy conditions when vehicle damage is slight.

“It’s kind of penalizing them when they weren’t required to call in the first place,” Casady said.

Officers also use greater discretion in single-vehicle accidents in which only the driver’s cars are damaged.

The guiding policy, Casady said, is that drivers should take weather conditions into consideration. When they don’t and an accident results, police should issue citations.

“But the officer may take into account aggravating and mitigating circumstances,” he said.

Reach Mark Andersen at 473-7238 or mandersen@journalstar.com.


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Jen wrote on January 3, 2008 1:59 am:
" This year has been the absolute worst I have ever seen as far as street clearing. How is it that about every fifth car seen was a snowplow, yet the roads were horrible? I am not just talking about the same day when the weather still had not cleared. I am also talking about a few days later when the roads STILL weren't clear! There are two large icy patches in the driveway at my apartment complex. I tripped and fell the other day and came away with a bruised knee. There are senior citizens living in my building and the driveway is STILL icy! The thing is, if it was just my apartment complex that would be one thing, but the roads were just downright HORRIBLE even days after the snow had left. Seriously, get someone on that STAT, before these statistics seem like peanuts. "

Jim J wrote on January 3, 2008 5:31 am:
" I was on the interstate that night. ICE was on every inch of the road. It took two hous and fifty mins to drive from Omaha. At one point in the trip the road was blocked by semis just east of the Platte River. thirty trucks were stuck going up a hill. I inched around the traffic jam, slowly driving in the median for about a hundred yards. Returning to the road and getting home safe in time to change my shorts.
Thank you to NSP and LSO for helping that night. "

Dak wrote on January 3, 2008 5:35 am:
" From the sidebar: There were 17 hit-and-runs, 11 resulting in injuries.

There are hit and runs in Lincoln everyday, and most will never solved. The year stats on the number of Hit and Runs in Lincoln is appalling, yet the number continue to rise, and victims suffer with injuries, medical bills, and higher insurance rates.

LPD really needs to get on the ball with this issue and do more!

Can you hear me now Casaday?
"

Omaha resident wrote on January 3, 2008 5:43 am:
" Over here the cops are scared to assign blame in a accident. The have the insurance companies do it, which is a joke.
It took months to get a check after my wife's car was drilled at a red light.
Thanks, douglas county! "

Hmmm! wrote on January 3, 2008 8:06 am:
" I would strongly argue the number of calls for service an agency has at the time of an accident is not a factor in whether or not a driver receives a citation. If the officer is going to fill out an accident report and conduct an accident investigation; writing a citation takes only a couple of minutes. The officer conducting the accident investigation has complete discretion in writing a citation just like an officer writing a warning or a ticket for speeding, violating a traffic signal or other traffic laws. It's important that drivers operate their vehicles at a speed appropriate to the changing road conditions. Granted, driving down a sloped road on a sheet of ice when public works has failed to put sand and ice melt down does cause frustration when the result is an accident. Here's an idea...Public Works should look at each accident report and determine if these areas of Lincoln need more attention. There are still many streets through out Lincoln today that are a sheet of ice, yet there is no sand to help drivers. If law enforcement is going to tell drivers to slow down then Public Works needs to keep putting sand down where it is needed. Not every accident are the driver's fault. I would argue in some cases the City of Lincoln could be at fault if they're failing to do their jobs in maintaing the streets. "

Randy Walters wrote on January 3, 2008 8:21 am:
" When there is an accident it does not always have to be someone's fault. According to Webster's Dictionary, and accident: is an unfortunate event occurring by chance or unintentionally, lack of intention or necessity. The reason that I used this definition is the new state law that forbids teenager's from using their cell phones while driving. Why did the legislature stop by defining it to teenager's. I see alot more "adults" using their cell phones while driving than I do teenager's. I would like to know the statictics when an officer investigates an accicdent, where cell phones were a conrtibutiing factor. Or do they ask. So let's look at the definitiono of negligence: carelessness, dereliction, heedlessness, slackness, failure. So those of you that drive while talking on your cell phones. So those of you that drive and talk on your cell phones, welcome gto the world of "negligence". "

Dak wrote on January 3, 2008 9:19 am:
" Here we are, nearly 30 days after the storm of December 6, 2007, and finally today, January 3, 2008, a sand truck finally comes down my street (Pace Blvd) and drops a ton of sand.

Gleefully, I am happy to see this happening, but I have to wonder, why it has taken so damn long? This is a side street mind you, but it bears a lot of traffic as it is one of a few through-way roads in this area.

It is solid ice, with three to four inches of ice in places, all compacted down, by the heavy traffic on Pace Blvd, and of the last places to see a snowplow or sand truck, in this case, nearly 30 days later.

"

Nina wrote on January 3, 2008 9:45 am:
" Reminds me of a question I've pondered. If a car slides into a ditch, no harm done except they'll need a tractor or wrecker to pull it out, is that considered an accident? If so, I've left the scene of an accident more than once. On Hwy 2 and area streets, I drive at a speed considering road conditions. Occasionally a car will pass me, and (sooner than later) go into the ditch because it's going too fast on icy roads. I keep going, as it would put me at risk to brake and stop, and also because I've had a hip replacement, I cannot walk on ice without great risk of undoing it. I'm curious to know the verdict on this. "

Michael wrote on January 3, 2008 9:48 am:
" The streets in City were never cleared. Period. WEEKS after the snow we had beautiful sheets of ice for streets. Driving around Lincoln, I saw a single plow. Neighbors and I took measures into our own hands and snowblowed our own block and put down ice melt to make the street usable.

City workers should continue to clear the streets until they are CLEARED. The blades should actually go all the whole down too, not up an inch so you can go home earlier. In several intersections, you needed a 4x4 to get through due to the ruts of solid ice and this is WEEKS after the storm.

COME ON!! This is just stupid. "

What? wrote on January 3, 2008 9:50 am:
" My daughter slid into a car stopped in the traffic lane that had slid into a car ahead of it. The first collision had mininmal damage and the driver was in a hurry to get out of there. My daughter received a ticket for sliding into a vehicle that slid into the first vehicle. The driver of the middle car didn't get a ticket. Now, a couple weeks later, the middle driver has pain and suffering which may have occurred from the first collision. I told my daughter to fight her citation in court. Ask the cop straight up what he saw. If he didn't see it, how can he give a citation? Be like handing out DWI's and speeding tickets without radar and breath tests. How much overtime is the average street cop going to get by going to court on their day off. If LPD got paid more, they wouldn't have to have this bonus system. Thanks again Casady. Insurance premium increases and damages aren't enough. Fight every ticket!!! "

Tom Casady wrote on January 3, 2008 9:52 am:
" Dak, I'm listening. In fact, after reading your comment I reviewed each of the December 6th hit & run accident reports. Four of those hit & runs we're solved after the fact, and the drivers cited. We have a very good description of a vehicle with intransit tags on a fifth, and we are still looking for that one. Three were street signs that were struck by unknown vehicles. One is a case where there was simply insufficient evidence to cite the suspected driver, and one was a case where the driver who left the scene had a plausible explanation that mitigated the violation. In all of the other cases that remain unsolved, there are no plate numbers, and only general vehicle descriptions (like "a gray pickup"). We write quite a few citations for leaving the scene of an accident every year, and all H&R's get assigned for followup if there is anything to go on. Trouble is, in many cases, there simply isn't any kind of a description of either the vehicle or driver, or it is so vague that it's really a needle in a haystack.

Are you just pitching a general complaint, or do you have a productive suggestion that is practical for the smallest police force per capita in Nebraska? "

What? wrote on January 3, 2008 9:55 am:
" What percentage of police and law enforcement cars got tickets that were involved in accidents? "

Tom Casady wrote on January 3, 2008 9:56 am:
" Oh, and Dak--It's not you're fault (the sidebar is a bit confusing on this) but that wasn't 17 hit & runs resulting in 11 injuries. It was 17 hit & run accidents out of the total of 161, and 11 injury accidents out of the total of 161. "

Voice of Reason wrote on January 3, 2008 10:38 am:
" Funny thing..
We used to say that if the Lincoln cops could determine fault, they issue a ticket. If they can't determine fault, they issue two! "

for you who do not know wrote on January 3, 2008 10:58 am:
" The officer can only issue a ticket if he was at the intersection and witnessed the accident or if the driver somehow admits fault or if there is a whitness who clearly stated a driver was in the wrong. "

RT wrote on January 3, 2008 11:38 am:
" Lincoln's citations are about as rediculous as could be,
when someone trys as in Evans case and you can't do any
thing when its ice. Then let some idiot run a red light
and the cop quickly looks the other way! I quickly stopped at a stop sign, there wasn't a car in sight for
blocks and blocks, but because I didn't set there and
wait for 10 minutes to see if a car would come, a cop
sitting down the street came after me like I was a
criminal and cited me. But isn't that the normal Lincoln
reasoning? Lived 50 years in another city/state and was
never in my life STOPPED or ticketed!! Might help if the
streets had been salted before all the ice built up. At
least in my former city they don't let the streets get
into that kind of shape like Lincoln does, then punish
the people trying to negociate on them!!!! "

JJ wrote on January 3, 2008 11:54 am:
" 92 drivers aged 16 to 29. (14 years) 40%
89 drivers aged 30-49. (20 years) 39%
48 drivers were older than 50. (25+ years) 21%
The median age of drivers cited was 29. The median age of those not cited was 35.

Now I'm curious. These stats are from one icy day. A resposible journalist would know that this data is available to the public, so I ask, in light of the recent passing of the bill about young people and cell phones and riders, can we see an investigative article on the relationship between age groups and accidents during the rest of the year? This report would include percentage of population for each age group as well as percent of accidents. Just curious. Go! "

Um... wrote on January 3, 2008 12:16 pm:
" Hit and run means just that, hit and run. If you don't have a good description of who hit you and ran, who are LPD supposed to look for? That is why most don't get solved, I don't think it's LPD's negligence. Geez, seems like every article I read on this site people comment blaming LPD. "

Cop elsewhere wrote on January 3, 2008 12:36 pm:
" First, in Nebraska, the use of the term "accident" on the report forms is outdated. Most areas now call them "crash" reports. The term accident implies, as alluded to earlier, that is was just an "accident" and nobody was at fault. Realistically, in most vehicle crashes, somebody was indeed at fault--speeding, failure to yield, too fast for condidtion, violate control device, etc, etc. Very few crashes are truely an "accident." Unless things are different in Lincoln, officers are NOT supposed to decide fault. They are to document the incident, list contributing factors, and decide if a violation of the law occured. If a violation did occur, they may issue a citation. An officer does NOT have to see it to issue a citation. There may be driver/witness statements, or even vehicle/roadway evidence to indicate that a violation occured. "

To What? wrote on January 3, 2008 12:41 pm:
" 'For Those Of You Who Do Not Know' is right; Most likely someone witnessed your daughter hitting the middle car, causing it to hit the car in front of them. And its not surprising that the passengers in the middle car are suffering from neck pain, they most likely suffered from concussions and severe whiplash, which is applified from directional shifts of being thrown in BOTH directions. How do I know...I've been the middle car before. I suffer from an accident in July where an SUV rammed into me while I was stopped, forcing me into the car in front of me. Of course, the SUV driver tried to say I rammed the car in front of me first.. but thankfully witnesses saw the whole thing and the SUV driver rightfully received the ticket. Cops don't like to fight tickets, so if she got a citation, somebody saw it. Your daughter is just lying like the woman in the SUV did... "

From a non LPD Cop wrote on January 3, 2008 1:15 pm:
" It is not our job to determine fault. That is what insurance companies do. We look for law violations and use our judgement if that person should be cited. "

What? wrote on January 3, 2008 2:31 pm:
" To non LPD cop, I was a cop for almost 12 years, and have sold insurance the last 16. If there is a ticket, there's your fault. I get so frustrated with clients that have kids that attend college in Lincoln. If they get an unwitnessed ticket, I tell them to go to court. If they admit they were in the wrong, I say your mistake,,,,pay the fine. For an 18 year old driver to pay higher rates, or have their insurance cancelled while having an accident the same day that several hundred other drivers had accidents doesn't indicate a drivers unlawful intent, it indicates Nebraska weather. Hang your next citation on Mother Nature. If a driver is breaking the law, let them have it. It's just frustrating to me because it only seems to be a problem in Lincoln. Several thousand dollars damage and an accident on your record is enough of a deterrent to unsafe driving. Adding a ticket to it is almost spiteful. "

James wrote on January 3, 2008 2:53 pm:
" The LPD is trying to do their jobs as fairly as possible to the best of their ability, all the while trying to handle the overwhelming traffic accident workload that icy weather creates. If you wish to get angry at someone, call the mayor's office and read his staff the riot act over the lack of street snow and ice clearance. Granted, the main arterial streets were plowed, but I've yet to see a side street in ANY residential neighborhood in Lincoln that is STILL not ice-covered to some degree. (With many streets and intersections completely iced over.) The saddest thing is that this condition remains almost a month after the initial ice storm. How are the elderly and kids walking to school supposed to deal with crossing streets in this condition? I guess the moral to this story is, if you want a safe, plowed street to live on, you had better move in next to the Mayor or your City Council representative. But please don't take it out on an overworked police force. For all the griping, the point of the story seems to be that our local officers are trying NOT to hand out tickets. And for that, I thank them. Thanks for reading. "

officer wrote on January 3, 2008 2:54 pm:
" In response to "what". If I don't witness a homicide can I still arrest the person responsible? Officers investigating accidents do not determine fault. A citation is issued if there is a traffic violation. If you rear end antoher vehicle, you are following a vehicle too closely and not giving yourself enough time to stop. Don't blame the chief for your daughter's poor driving. How about a little personal responsiblity? "

DR wrote on January 3, 2008 3:25 pm:
" Tou will all be complaining about POT HOLES next. "

Jay wrote on January 3, 2008 4:28 pm:
" Its amusing to hear my neighbors complain - these are the same ones who came slipping down thier own driveway to complain about how well the city is taking care of roads! Why should the city be responsible for accidents like this? You knew the roads were bad, but drove on them anyways...when something happens you point the finger at someone else! Nice. "

SA wrote on January 3, 2008 6:48 pm:
" A fact missed through this article and commentary is how many commuters on Dec. 6th made it to work or home without having an accident? Probably 50,000 drivers. That shows most drivers have learned to use caution in severe weather and only a few practice poor driving habits. Those that had accidents were passed by motorists who continued to work or home without incident. Slower speeds, starting out earlier, braking sooner are praticed by the multitude that commute daily in Lincoln in the winter. The rest try to blame Mother Nature, and the City of Lincoln for their poor driving habits. "

KT wrote on January 3, 2008 10:06 pm:
" This is the worst year I have ever seen for street clearing. Maybe getting a new mayor did not matter, the city still doesn't do its job, so the result is more accidents and the LJS has nothing better to write about than who gets cited for an ACCIDENT. I live in Syracuse and commute Lincoln. How is it possible that the state can clear Hwy 2 and is always sanding/salting/de-icing but once I get to 92nd and Hwy 2 it looks like a war zone. Do your job, city of Lincoln, and clear the streets, maybe there would be less accidents for the cops to worry about. "

mean green wrote on January 3, 2008 10:33 pm:
" I am very surpised that no one has brought up the fact that officers really do not have any discretion. What is the officer supposed to do when they are ordered to give a citation for a small time accident because the person who got hit complains and wants it done because the insurance company will see the person who was cited is at fault. Are there any readers who have ever been told that the reason they are getting cited is because the officer was told to do so? I dont think an officer is going to risk getting into trouble to cut someone a break. "

Safety First wrote on January 4, 2008 3:47 am:
" Kudos to Police Chief Casady who states "Are you just pitching a general complaint, or do you have a productive suggestion that is practical..." This statement is paramount to adressing the primary issue of assignment of responsibility in vehicle accidents. Resolution to the problem of assigning blame requires community involvement during city council meetings/open forum where problems and viable solutions are addressed to accomplish near, short and long term goals of accident response teams criteria for assignment of blame, identification of primary and secondary clearing of roads in a timely manner and clear and concise online/public posting of appeals procedures of citations issued by law enforcement officers. The multi-tier problem caused by inclement weather will reoccur at a later date and simply complaining about the problems without providing solutions or working with the civil authorities towards a solution is a waste of time and energy. "

cuffed and stuffed wrote on January 4, 2008 5:57 am:
" Here in Columbus, I was told by a Columbus Police Department officer that the city requires him to write a citation at any accident. He said that it was a city
ordinance and that he would get in trouble if he didn't
write the citation. But this is Columbus, so what else
would you expect! "

FinetheCity wrote on January 4, 2008 10:30 am:
" If I dont clear my sidewalk I receive a fine from the City so when the City doesnt clean the 6 inchs of solid ice off the city streets and we have a wreck, how about fining the City? "

The Complaining Never Stops wrote on January 4, 2008 11:26 am:
" What's wrong with you people of Lincoln? It's icy out and accidents happen, but it's never the driver's fault, right? It's either the City's fault for not getting every inch of ice off the road, or the cop's fault for issuing a citation. Does anyone realize that if you drive carefully on the icy roads that accidents can be avoided? Or is that concept beyond your grasp? When it snows, an intelligent person leaves for work earlier than normal, because the conditions cause them to drive slower and more carefully. How much brain power does it take to realize you have to approach intersections as if they are sheets of ice? Quit complaining and take responsibility for your own actions. It's never going to stop snowing in Lincoln during the winter, and if you haven't figured that out already, I ask that you stay off the roads so you don't hit me or anyone else because of your inability to drive in adverse weather. Half of the people in Lincoln would have an accident regardless of the weather because they are too consumed by their own little world that they are oblivious to anyone else around them. Pull your heads out of your backsides and pay attention, and accidents wouldn't happen. "

P. Robert wrote on January 4, 2008 11:31 am:
" KT, I fully agree with you on the Lincoln situation with snow, we need to get our act together. But how about you people in 11 county learning how to drive before you come to the big city. It's obvious more than half of the county works here in Lincoln already and I can't go anywhere without witnessing an 11 county car doing something idiotic. We Lincoln drivers are bad enough, it's pretty sad when another county can stands out like you folks do. Who is the driving instructor in that town?? He is over paid. I agree that we need to get our act together if for no other reason than to keep the 11 county cars from driving any worse than they do. Maybe we don't have enough money to pay for snow removal because of all you people outside the county that don't pay a dime towards our taxes but still like to clutter our streets. Your more than welcome to stay beyond the 92nd and Hwy 2 warzone. "

Cop Star wrote on January 4, 2008 12:25 pm:
" The weather conditions are no excuse to run your car into people causing property damage or injury. People always seem to think they have no responsibility in accidents when it's slick out. If the officer can respond to the call for service without getting into an accident, clearly, it can be done if caution is used. "

well wrote on January 4, 2008 12:28 pm:
" when school is cancelled because of the road conditions, it doesn't mean it's a shopping day. I can't say how many times I've seen VERY BAD WEATHER AND STREET CONDITIONS, and everybody runs out in their cars and drives around way too fast. Result = Accidents. And I'm only out there cause I have to go to work and drive. Then again, myself and most of the co-workers don't get in accidents in the bad conditions... Now why is that? Drive slow and drive straight is what I've been told once or twice. "

Insurance adjuster wrote on January 4, 2008 1:53 pm:
" The police should not determine fault in an accident. It's pointless if they do. the insurance company does not go by what the police think...... they did not witness the accident. MANY polcie officers are not aware of all traffic laws. I often see that police give tickets to the wrong person. And what exactly do you want them to do in a hit & run case?? do cars leave fingerprints? What a waste of taxpayer money to do an investigation on that!
"

Its not thier job... wrote on January 4, 2008 1:56 pm:
" to clear the side roads. Only the main artirial streets (sic?). If you would like your side streets cleared then go to the next discussion on the budget for the City and discuss this. Educate your self before you throw out comments. "

Hey wrote on January 4, 2008 2:05 pm:
" With the lack of resources the taxpayers provide - the LPD and city workers are doing an EXCELLENT job!!
Want more done by the city - pay more taxes - they are already stretched thin.
"

TOO FUNNY wrote on January 4, 2008 2:19 pm:
" GO TEAM CASSIDY !!!
You told Dak!!
Thanks for the great work you do to keep this a safe city "

so wait... wrote on January 4, 2008 4:14 pm:
" Lets just say I went through the stoplight at 70th and Hwy 2 heading west on Hwy2. And I hit my brakes stopping for the next light at Lowes and I don't make a complete stop until I hit a car that is stopped at the light, that is my fault? so I should just "assume" that because the road is icy it will take a half mile to make a complete stop. This makes no sense, how do I know how long it is going to take for my car to make a complete stop on a sheet of ice. Sorry but I don't bring Einstein with me every where I go to work out my everyday physics problems. "

so wait ? wrote on January 4, 2008 6:02 pm:
" so you can drive why; dont you stay at home when the roads are anything but dry and clear that way you wont keep slamming into people i didn't know driving on ice required a rocket scientists but you have to be smarter than ice "

unamused citzen wrote on January 4, 2008 6:45 pm:
" I would wager a guess that those drivers complaing about getting a ticket would also be the one screaming at the officer when somebody else hits you and the officer doesn't cite the other guy. If you care to look pass your own little corner of Lincoln you would see that the PD has way better things to do than work every little fender bender and waste man hours to help insurance settle a accident. Every other major city I have lived in would laugh at you if you thought a cop would come give you a accident report for a snow day accident with nobody hurt. I for one notice all the actual crime the cops could be dealing with but cant because they are dealing with what amounts to the insurance companies problem. Chief correct me if I'm wrong but I bet your Officers would gladly not cite or even show up on non injury accidents. I know that when I was cited for a accident that was my fault on ice covered street it wasn't fun but I drive on ice all the time as do 1000s of other drivers every day and don't wreck. This time I let my guard down which means my fault. Chief tell you Officers some of us support them and take responsblity for our actions rather than blaming every body else. Thanks LPD "

"so what" - you shouldn't drive wrote on January 4, 2008 6:47 pm:
" ANYTIME you rear end someone you are at fault.... ANYTIME!!!!
when its icy out you are EXPECTED to compensate by driving slower. it's not your right to have a license, it's a privilege. Doesn't take Einstein to drive a car carefully. Next time you are rear ended by someone sliding on the ice, i wanna see you tell them no problem, it wasn't their fault. Let them go and not get their insurance info "

Grounds for recall of mayor wrote on January 4, 2008 8:03 pm:
" Our current mayor should be held accountable for his actions on winter driving conditions. When he was campaigning for office I don't recall him saying he could care less of Lincoln's citizens' welfare in winter months.
Maybe, just maybe enough people are upset with his actions to use this lack of concern on his part to say a recall just may be justified.
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db wrote on January 4, 2008 8:51 pm:
" Hmm.. I think 'so wait' needs to be driving slower. It is not easy to slide for 1/2 mile. I drive on country roads all the time that are two to three times icier than city streets (I also drive on those) and I have never slid for 1/2 a mile. For the sake of everyone else, I hope you're kidding. "