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City to proceed with second 'quiet zone'

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By DEENA WINTER / Lincoln Journal Star

Tuesday, Sep 11, 2007 - 12:31:42 pm CDT

A local railroad safety board voted to proceed with plans to create a second so-called “quiet zone” in Lincoln where train horns can be silenced once safety devices are beefed up around railroad crossings.

The city’s first quiet zone is in the works on a 6.5-mile stretch of north Lincoln along Cornhusker Highway from about 33rd to 70th street. City Engineer Roger Figard said the goal is to have the north quiet zone ready — and trains silenced — by year’s end. However, it won’t be quiet enough to hear crickets, because the Adams Street crossing will get a “wayside horn” installed near the crossing. Wayside horns focus the sound toward the vehicles and are much quieter than train horns.

The Railroad Transportation Safety District board — which is comprised of three City Council members and three County Board members — has also been studying whether to create two more quiet zones in southwest Lincoln, from south of O Street to the intersection of 14th Street and Yankee Hill Road.

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In this September 2006 file photo, a Burlington Northern train idles just east of the 44th street crossing near Cornhusker Highway, an area included in the city's first "quiet zone." (LJS File)

A consultant hired by the board, Kirkham Michael, studied the southwest corridor and recommended the board proceed on the southernmost leg — from Saltillo Road to Pioneers Boulevard — but hold off on a third quiet zone in the South Salt Creek Neighborhood — from Pioneers to First and J streets.

The South Salt Creek zone is much more complicated, with more railroad crossings to deal with and the impending closure of the nearby Harris Overpass, which will likely increase traffic through the neighborhood. For those and other reasons, the consultant recommended the board hold off on that zone at least until the overpass is rebuilt.

The consultant has made a preliminary recommendation that the board close the crossing at D Street and at the J Street intersections with Second and Third streets.

The safety board voted to proceed with creating the southernmost zone, but extend the zone to include two crossings at the bottom of the northern zone so things can begin to quiet down all the way to the A Street crossing, at a total cost of nearly $290,000. That means the southern quiet zone basically extends from Saltillo Road to about A Street.

Alterations to crossings in the north quiet zone will cost about $259,000.

The RTSD — which is funded by a county property tax levy — will pay for engineering and construction costs, but the city and county would be responsible for maintenance and ownership costs.

Figard said work on the southern quiet zone could begin by early spring.

Reach Deena Winter at 473-2642 or dwinter@journalstar.com.


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All quiet wrote on September 11, 2007 1:47 pm:
" Thank you thank you thank you, please do this at Old Cheney & 77 "

Lisa wrote on September 11, 2007 2:04 pm:
" I lived at approx 33rd and Cornhusker for 20 years. You get kind of used to the noise - unless of coarse it's summer and you even try to talk on the phone. Watch TV. Have a conversation. I think prohibiting the trains from stopping in the middle of the intersection would be an improvement alone. "

BOB wrote on September 11, 2007 2:15 pm:
" I built my house by railroad tracks and now i don't want to hear them, please make my area a quiet zone too. I hope this applies to college parties too. "

Jimmy Minnitte wrote on September 11, 2007 2:22 pm:
" This is is regarad to the so-called "Quiet Zone" that the city of Lincoln and the BNSF wants to install in the southwest corridor. I live on the corner of 3rd & D st. and although the train horns are loud and do wake us at all hours of the night, I am more troubled with the trains derailing more than anything else. If they close the intersection we in this area have only 1 way in or out of our area and that is off of A & 1st ST. IF for any reason this intersecton is blocked and we are in need of emergency services we are lost. I thought we lived in a democracy and that what we wanted and believed in mattered. NO ONE asked the residents of our neighborhood what we thought about the closing of our intersection or how we felt about being blocked off from our regular route to and from work. I now will have to go over a mile a day each way out of my way to go to work. With gas prices rising they way they are, who will compensate us for that? I didn't ask to be isolated from my routine. My son lives catty corner from me and now I won't be able to cross the tracks to get there?? How fair is that? When did the City of Lincoln become the City of Burlington Northern and when did we relinguish our rights as citizens? Where is the fair play in all of this? "

Great idea... wrote on September 11, 2007 2:28 pm:
" As long as the public cooperates and stays off the tracks. BNSF is tired of getting frivolous lawsuits thrown at them regarding x-ing incidents. "

a wrote on September 11, 2007 2:49 pm:
" I second that for Old Cheney & 77 :) "

Dano wrote on September 11, 2007 2:55 pm:
" If you live by the railroad tracks in some of these neighborhoods, the sound of a train crossing horn is the least of your worries. You should expect to hear a train once in awhile. This may belong ont he waste of time list. "

BILL wrote on September 11, 2007 3:26 pm:
" The railroad has been in Lincoln long before any of you were alive, quit complaining, you chose to buy/build close to train tracks. I live 50 yards away from the tracks, I live with it, I could have bought a house away from there, but the land was cheaper by the tracks. "

Please, Dano wrote on September 11, 2007 4:57 pm:
" Define "once in awhile", Dano. Do you have any idea how many trains pass through the SW corridor in a 24-hr period? Once every 15 minutes or so is way more than once in awhile. And it's a significantly higher number than it was when most of us bought or built our homes. "

Carl wrote on September 12, 2007 8:49 am:
" I agree that I bought my house knowing that it was near the track crossing at 14th and Yankee Hill. However if there is a way to reduce the amount of times the whole area of town is awoke every night and not endanger the drivers of Lincoln, why not do it. The city is growing in all directions, and the train noise really is the worst thing about living in our neighborhood. My wife said last night that once the reopen 27th street and quient the trains this will be about as perfect a neighborhood to live in as possible. "

YEAH!!! wrote on September 12, 2007 8:54 am:
" The number of residential neighborhoods and the number of trains have increased dramatically in the last 7 years since I have lived in southwest Lincoln near RR tracks. Southwest Lincoln has seen such a growth spurt in this time and I’m personally thrilled that the city recognizes this and is making accommodations for improving the quality of our neighborhoods. In my opinion, determining factors for quiet zones should be population and growth rate and I would be in favor of quiet zones in any neighborhood that has seen such drastic growth as southwest Lincoln has. "

More Taxes? wrote on September 12, 2007 9:21 am:
" So, who is going to pay for this? The people who live in those neighborhoods? Or is the whole city (or is it county?) going to pay a tax in order to make up for the bad decision of people who CHOSE to live next to railroad tracks? Come on people, its not like one day you woke up and discovered that suddenly there was a noisy rail road next to your house. If the people in those neighborhoods are going to pay for the modifications AND the anual maintainence, Great!! But if this is going to be yet another burden on the tax payers, when we are having to close schools because we don't have enough money in the budget, then I am very opposed to it. Yes, trains can be loud, but you knew that before you moved into that home. If you don't like the noise, then you should move somewhere else. I have lived next to railroad tracks before, in several different cities, and I don't ever recall them keeping me awake at night, or being so disturbing that I couldn't continue on with my tasks. Show some responsiblity people. If you don't like the noise, empower yourself, and MOVE, don't require that others foot the bill for your inconviencne. "

Tired of 4:20am Wakeup calls wrote on September 12, 2007 9:22 am:
" Another Thank You Thank You Thank you from 14th and Old Cheney! "

Waste wrote on September 12, 2007 10:41 am:
" Another waste of tax money. Consultants, devices, studies what a waste of money. And then everyone will ball when their taxes go up. You can't keep spending and spending on frivolous things and think your taxes are not going to go up. Personally I enjoy the sound of trains. Perhaps a law suit that I will be denied my pursuit of happiness by removing that which makes me happy - train whistles. WHEWWWWWW WHEWWWWWWWWWW "

cry babies wrote on September 12, 2007 11:53 am:
" What a bunch of whiners, train noises so that people know they are coming. Wait until someone gets hurt in one of these "quiet zones". Then there will be the same group of people that got the quiet zone in the first place complaining how mo one is worried about their safety. "

Tom wrote on September 12, 2007 11:58 am:
" So you have to drive a mile out of your way...well how about when you have to take a detour around construction, or go out of your way to go to a grocery store when one is closer. Closing of these redundant crossings is good. Who do you think is at fault when a train hits a vehicle that drove around the gates or failed to yield at the crossing...the engineer? "

Can't wait for quiet wrote on September 12, 2007 12:02 pm:
" I really look forward to the completion of this quiet zone, as a business owner near 35th & Cornhusker I literally have to put customers on hold, wait to talk to employees, etc, etc, until the trains go by (lots & lots of trains). Perhaps I won't hate the railroad anymore after it quiets down, I know it's not their fault, yet I've considered renting a billboard along Cornhusker with the simple phrase "SHUT THE #!*@ UP". "

Good idea wrote on September 12, 2007 12:48 pm:
" To all of you coming down on the people who bought/built near the tracks: heaven forbid you should know what it's like to be broke enough that you can't afford anything different. And heaven forbid we do anything to improve people's living conditions, regardless of what they can or can't afford. I bet you're all the same people that like to gripe about how the city won't ever move forward on proposed developments/improvements, too. We all pay taxes that don't necessarily benefit us directly- that's a fact of life, so find something else to gripe about. To all of you living near tracks and hoping for quieter conditions- I wish you the best of luck, and support these projects wholeheartedly. "

Lori Bock wrote on September 12, 2007 1:08 pm:
" Who is paying for this? I grew up where the tracks crossed on our block and its something you live with. Its something you should count on when you buy a home close to the tracks. Most times you slept through the horns because you become accustomed to it. I really hope the taxpayer is not footing this bill. "

T4acres wrote on September 12, 2007 2:05 pm:
" To Jimmy Minnitte - we do not live in a Democracy, we live in a Representative Republic. We can't take a vote of the people on each and every issue, so we elect representatives (your City Council representative in this case) and they do the voting for us. I don't doubt that you have a valid argument - please contact your Council representative. "

Hey More Taxes? wrote on September 12, 2007 2:34 pm:
" If you don't like paying taxes for the betterment of the community, maybe you should move. We all pay taxes to cover things that don't directly benefit us. It's what makes the world go 'round. "

Trains? What century are we in? wrote on September 12, 2007 2:52 pm:
" You'd think this would be taken care of already in a town with a quarter-million people. Omaha doesn't have these problems. Why? Because they build bridges over the train tracks so they don't have to use the horns. C'mon people, this isn't Beatrice. There's no reason why we should have trains running through the busiest intersections in town with their horns blarin'. Let's make this town a little less Redneck. What do ya say? "

Tax ME wrote on September 12, 2007 3:24 pm:
" I purchased my home near 33rd and Cornhusker because of the train noise. Im I required to be quiet now. In the last 6 yrs. No one has called me in for tunning hot rods or having a party. Lincoln sucks. "

Captain Obvious wrote on September 12, 2007 3:34 pm:
" Who's going to pay, I'd ask the same question when they decide to rip up the train tracks for the new "arena" downtown. Yes we could build the bridges for a no horn area, but that'll cost ya. We could also build a South & East beltway... oh, wait that'll cost to. "

Dano replies wrote on September 12, 2007 3:50 pm:
" Yes, and you bought your property knowing there was a set of train tracks near it. It is just like people who buy houses on main road arterials. You can't complain about traffic, if it was there when you bought the place. I lived in the russian bottoms for a while, the noise is not that bad, you get used to it. If they close the street crossings down there, then you won't have any to worry about going forward. It was a lot worse before the A street bridge went in and they blew the horn from A to J St every block. And they had to because idiots would race down blocks to beat the trains. I personally like the sound, reminds me of my grandpa who worked the rails all of his life. Let the Orange Blossom Special roll. TOOT, TOOT, CHUGGA CHUGGA, TOOT, TOOT. "

Carl wrote on September 12, 2007 4:27 pm:
" I have had my fill of people questioning who is going to pay for this fix. So here it goes, and feel free to flame away once you read my post. I live right across from Wilderness Ridge Golf Course, and with that goes the fact that I pay almost 6,000 per year in property taxes, plus taxes on my vehicles, and 7 percent sales tax on everything my wife buys at South Pointe. It's a simple fact that the people that live on this end of town, make more money, spend more money and pay more than our fair share of taxes, and for the most part we do not recieve our fair share of benefits for the taxes that we pay. So you know who is paying for the quiet zone at 14th and Yankee Hill, I am, and so are everyone of my neighbors who pay the taxes on the land that was 10 years ago crop land, but now is worth tens of millions of dollars due to the fact that we chose to build a great neighborhood in it's place. So I don't for a second feel guilty about MY tax dollars getting spent to make this part of town a whole lot better place to live. Better yet maybe I should ask who is paying for all of the social services that I don't get any benefit from in this town, who is paying for new street lights and median work in a neighborhood that should just be level and turned into parking lots for Memorial Stadium, or even who is paying for the new free admission splash park in the middle of the hood. So think about that the next time you question who is paying for something in one of the areas of town where the taxPAYERS actually live. "

Here's Another Comment wrote on September 13, 2007 6:08 am:
" I am an avid railfan. Many times I am at a crossing somewhere taking photos. What concerns me about these quiet zones are all those folks that CHOOSE to go AROUND the crossing gates when they are down. True, sometimes it takes a few minutes for them to raise back up. BUT.....there just MAY be a train coming that YOU CAN'T SEE due to the fact that one has just cleared the crossing. And you KNOW what will happen......SOMEONE will be hit by a train and THEN complain that they "didn't hear" the new setup in the "quiet zone". Who's going to be blamed then? BNSF, The City, The Planners, The Consultant???? Probably all of the above. It WILL happen. I'll just wait and see....... Perhaps some of those "red light" cameras that are currently in use could be put to use at crossings to catch the folks that blatantly do this. wouldn't they be surprised to receive a ticket in the mail along with the HUGE fine that goes along with it. "