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The fine line: Mental illness and crime

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By LORI PILGER / Lincoln Journal Star

Sunday, Jul 22, 2007 - 12:07:47 am CDT

Jimmy Burke walked down the middle of 27th Street, trying to flag down passing cars for help.

When that didn’t work, he rang a stranger’s doorbell in the quiet Country Club neighborhood.

It was 2:45 on a cold winter morning, and Burke’s ringing was frantic. Then he twisted the locked front doorknob, and the woman inside grabbed her cell phone and called 911.

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Jimmy Burke has struggled with mental illness most of his life. "I'm kind of in my own little pursuit of happiness," Burke says, referring to one of his favorite movies. The 36-year-old illustrates the problem of how police should handle custody of people with mental illness. (William Lauer)

That was Jan. 20.

Six months later, Burke is on probation for three misdemeanor charges that resulted from his brush with police who went out on the 911 call, and he’s frustrated.

The incident shouldn’t have led to charges at all, he said.

“I’m not saying I didn’t make mistakes. I was ill,” Burke said.

Diagnosed with manic depression, Tourette syndrome, generalized anxiety and obsessive compulsive disorder, he was in the middle of a manic episode.

The night before, he tried to report himself as a missing person and went to two Lincoln hospitals trying to get help. By the time he pounded on the woman’s door, he said, he was “major manic” and desperate for help.

Lincoln Police Officer Jesse Hilger testified at Burke’s trial on April 19 that Burke dragged him out of his cruiser in the center of 27th Street.

But Hilger and the other officer who tried to get Burke into their car that night determined he wasn’t a danger to himself or others.

“Where’d the transition happen?” Burke asked last week. “Six months later, it still bothers me.”

He was either dangerous or he wasn’t, he said. Police shouldn’t be able to have it both ways.

Some say police and jails are dealing with more mentally ill people today than they did in decades past, because it’s harder to get someone committed to state hospitals, which have fewer beds than they used to.

Some say we’ve just gotten better at identifying mental illness.

The Lincoln Police Department spent 2,372 hours — roughly equal to 1½ officers’ total hours for a year — dealing with calls on mental issues in 2006. Some of those cases resulted in arrests, like Burke’s.

Assistant Police Chief Jim Peschong, who has been with LPD since 1975, said the calls always have been part of the job, but for whatever reason, there are more now.

Police work with people “until there are certain thresholds that you just can’t ignore,” he said.

Sometimes a situation reaches a point at which police have to do something because a crime has been committed, Peschong said.

And, he said, some mentally ill people know what buttons they need to push if they can’t otherwise get services in a crisis.

“I think that there is this fine line. And it’s a fine gray line,” Peschong said. “What does it take to wind up saying that this is really a mental health issue as opposed to this person truly committing a crime?”

Last year, dispatchers sent Lincoln police to more than 1,800 calls — on average five per day — involving mental health investigations or suicides. And they’re not quick calls. Officers spend an average of two hours on each.

“The reality of it is we carry guns and Tasers and pepper spray and things like that for crises — and when things are really bad, that’s what we are for,” he said.

But dealing with someone in crisis who needs medication or a counselor is just not in officers’ skill sets, Peschong said.

“We’ll be the first ones to admit that.”

Officers do get some training, and soon they may get more.

Dan Jackson, interim executive director of the Nebraska chapter of the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill, said two Lincoln police captains are set to go to a Crisis Intervention Training in Omaha this fall.

“In my mind that’s a huge step forward,” he said. “Police and the court systems want a better way to respond to this.”

Jackson said the Douglas County Sheriff Office plans to send 10 percent of its force to the training. Omaha police are taking it, too.

“It gives them tools they don’t get in the academy,” he said.

Not yet anyway.

Jackson said the Nebraska Law Enforcement Training Center in Grand Island soon may make it an official part of training for new officers in Nebraska.

“We’re hopeful that this will spread throughout the state,” he said.

Right now in Lincoln, Peschong said, police are trained to assess a situation and decide if someone needs to go to a crisis center.

“Because we wind up dealing with so many of these … it’s really more of a procedural thing,” he said. “What does the law say? Is the person a threat to themselves or others?”

If an officer deems someone not to be a threat, Peschong said, options are limited. Officers might call a counselor if they know a person has been seeing one.

If they have probable cause to believe someone is mentally ill and dangerous, police can take a person into emergency protective custody to be evaluated.

In Lincoln, that means a trip to the Crisis Center at BryanLGH Medical Center West, where a mental health professional does an evaluation within 36 hours and forwards treatment recommendations to the county attorney, who can seek a commitment or not.

Scott Etherton, program manager of the Crisis Center, said when the center’s 15 beds are full, the hospital takes the overflow.

Some months they’ve begun at least half the days full, he said.

During the past fiscal year, Etherton said, about 400 people were admitted by law enforcement in Lancaster County — the majority from Lincoln police.

Peschong said police used to spend hours trying to find somewhere to take a person in crisis. He said that’s more rare today, but it’s still frustrating when some consider a mental health crisis law enforcement’s problem.

“It really doesn’t do any good for them to be sitting in the back of a police cruiser, either. And jails aren’t really equipped to wind up handling people in mental health crisis situation,” he said.

But that’s where a good percentage of them land.

According to a report issued by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics in 2006, an estimated 64 percent of jail inmates had a history of mental problems or exhibited symptoms of one.

University of Nebraska-Lincoln Law Professor Robert Schopp said people should be wary of the numbers. Who is defining “mentally ill?” he asked. What does it mean?

But mentally ill people do end up behind bars, he said, and it’s putting a strain on jails and prisons.

Schopp said a national shift in treatment is behind the trend.

In the 1960s, when people with mental illness committed relatively minor crimes, police picked them up, took them to the hospital and admitted them. Period.

It doesn’t work that way today.

“The more we close down the (mental) hospitals and the more we made it more difficult to commit people over the last 40 to 50 years, the more we have, whether we intended to or not, opted to shift those people into the criminal justice system.”

The question becomes how to most effectively deal with certain people. Schopp said it’s not good to shift seriously impaired people into jails because they can’t get into the mental health system. But it’s not good for it to be easy to commit people, either.

“We’ve got a balancing act there that we don’t necessarily balance very well,” he said.

Jimmy Burke’s trial on disturbing the peace, refusing to comply and hindering arrest played out in a Lancaster County courtroom three months after his arrest on that cold January night.

The Lincoln woman awakened by his desperate ringing at her door told the judge she knew something was wrong with the man outside. She said she opened her second-floor window, looked down and asked him what he was doing.

He was lost, he told her. He didn’t want to hurt her, he just wanted to come in. He needed help.

Help was on the way, she said.

Burke had wandered a mile from his Tierra Park apartment. Now it was dark and cold, and he didn’t know how to get home.

When police arrived, he demanded they take him home or to jail. But the officers told him he could walk home — it was a straight shot. If he didn’t leave, they said they told him, they’d arrest him.

Burke threatened to break all of the home’s windows or drive himself home in the police car. Police finally told Burke he was under arrest.

Good, he said. But he wanted to ride in the front.

The woman who called police said she could hear him getting louder.

“No, no, no. I will not get in the car. No, no,” she could hear him say.

He yelled for help, yelled between cussing and screaming that they were hurting him.

What happened next depends upon whom you ask.

Burke says police kicked the tar out of him for no reason.

Police say they tried wrist locks,  pressure point strikes to his head and knee and neck restraint to get the 6-foot-1, 350-pound man into the cruiser.

What’s clear is there was a struggle that ended with Burke headed for the Lancaster County Jail.

Brenda Fisher, an intake specialist at the jail, said it’s no different in Lincoln than anywhere else in the United States: The jail is seeing more mentally ill inmates.

It also spends more on medication for them, and staff members ask the jail’s consulting psychiatrist to do more evaluations, she said.

Last month, 238 of the jail’s average daily population of 492 took some type of medication, Fisher said. Of that 238, 98 received psychiatric meds other than antidepressants.

“It’s not uncommon for us to see someone who very easily clears the mental illness hurdle, but they’re not giving any evidence of dangerousness,” Fisher said.

The jail trains uniformed officers to recognize signs and symptoms of a major mental illness and to parse out what might be brought on by drug use. Those who book people into jail get especially good at it, she said.

“Very few people are happy to come through the door,” she said. “But how upset, how anxious, how angry are they? Are they having obvious problems coping? That’s what staff are looking for.”

Inmates with severe mental illness may have more trouble adjusting to jail in general, she said, but the most challenging inmate is one who comes in at a psychotic level, delusional and hearing voices.

“You have to provide a different kind of environment for that type of individual primarily for their own protection,” Fisher said.

They have special-needs housing at the jail for that reason.

And in 2003, the jail got a grant to divert people who have a major mental illness but can work with a case manager to resources in the community, she said.

In part, the mental health jail diversion program was begun to alleviate overcrowding by taking a different approach — one that could result in community supervision and support, help would-be inmates take care of their legal situations and address underlying issues that may be driving the behavior that led to their arrests, Fisher said.

“Mental illness is something that this correctional facility is very well aware of,” she said. “It’s not the case that someone comes here and they just sort of languish. There’s an effort made to the very best of our ability to get them linked up to support in the community so that hopefully they don’t return to custody.”

The key, Fisher said, is adequate community resources.

Lincoln has a lot of them, she said, but it also has intense needs, and there’s always room for more help. She hopes one day the net of services is wide enough to help those who aren’t a huge risk to public safety.

“My hope is that we’ll see a time come where those type of individuals are not brought into custody, but (are) provided a different kind of service,” she said.

Either way, Fisher said, there likely always will be a segment of a jail or prison population with mental illness.

Lancaster County Court Judge James Foster told Jimmy Burke  he believed he was having problems the night he was arrested, but that Burke still committed the crimes.

On June 1, Foster sentenced him to six months on probation.

“I want you to take care of yourself,” he said at the sentencing.

And Burke, a 35-year-old who has struggled with mental illness since he was growing up in Texas, is back on his meds, taking classes at Doane College and beginning a new job. He’s on a state advisory committee on mental health services and wants to work in Christian mental health advocacy one day.

“I really do feel optimistic, but I can’t do it alone,” he said at his apartment last week. “I feel like I walk a little bit of a tightrope.”

Reach Lori Pilger at 473-7237 or lpilger@journalstar.com.


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pam wrote on July 22, 2007 4:03 am:
" i work with mentally challenged people, men and women, and understanding and patience is one thing you need, which you wont always get with the police or hospitals. "

Clay wrote on July 22, 2007 4:22 am:
" It is really simple if you let it be. Attempted breaking and entering. He is lucky he didn't get 6 months in jail-not to mention he only got probation. And for him to say that there should have not have been any charges? Can you imagine if you were a woman or a man for that matter and someone is turning your door knob at 3 in the morning? Do you think,even once, he stopped to think what that poor lady was thinking. Oh, yeah, he has taken responsibility for his actions-not! I hope I am long dead when eventually every crime will be forgiven due to some extenuating circumstance. He obviously needed help and he is getting it but for him to say that he shouldn't have been charged with something says a lot about his mental state and the distance he needs to go get back to reality. "

Adams County Cynic wrote on July 22, 2007 11:40 am:
" When the state continues to shut down adult mental health units at the regional centers, you're going to see more and more of this. Keep your tax dollars folks, but don't be surprised when some 300 ibs. person in crisis comes to YOUR home for help, because state services are deemed too expensive or unnecessary. "

Gage S. wrote on July 22, 2007 11:54 am:
" Mentally ill have had a stigmatized journey ni their lives, and perhaps this can be a form of a catalyst to make our governemnt and society make some commitments to creating some stablity for these individuals, in more ways than one. It appears to be a misunderstanding on many levels, and the previous comments seem to be somewhat closed minded, but I understand where the naarowness is created. It will take positive exposure to this population or for someone you love to experience something similar for most to develop empathy. Until that day, I do hope some tolerence is used in the future. "

Rebecca wrote on July 22, 2007 2:08 pm:
" I am currently studying psychology. I think ppl with abnormal psych need help not smacked on the wrist. I also believe there needs to be MANDATORY meds, it needs to be a law. I have watched those close to me decompensate horribly in short amounts of time due to stop/start of meds. All who are mentally illand under doctor care need to follow the percription, not go off emds at will. "

Not an excuse wrote on July 22, 2007 2:09 pm:
" Being mentally ill does not give you a 'get out of jail free card'. People need to take responsibility for themselves, mentally ill or not. A lot of times they have chosen not to take the medication that can prevent some of these outbursts. They need to be held accountable just like everyone else. "

Too many wrote on July 22, 2007 3:15 pm:
" people cop out of their convictions claiming they're mentally ill. That's what kills the sysytem. It's our own fault for letting it happen. "

shsh wrote on July 22, 2007 4:29 pm:
" Clay, whether you realize it or not, your response and observation is a confirmation that this gentleman has a serious mental illness and is not responsible for his actions: for him to say that he shouldn't have been charged with something says a lot about his mental state and the distance he needs to go get back to reality. If I had been that woman, I would have called 911, but after the fact, would not have pressed charges due to his mental illness. It seems you have some notion of him living outside of reality, but you don't realize that that is mental illness. It is also apparant that you don't know what it is like on the inside of a mental illness. Of course he did not stop to think what that poor lady was thinking. That again is the very definition of mental illness. He needs help in the healthcare system, not the criminal justice system. Frankly, if the health-care system worked, if would not be the huge issue that it is in the criminal justice system. "

tampa husker wrote on July 22, 2007 5:13 pm:
" Some of these comments show the ignorance within society about mental illnesses such as bipolar disorder. It is a very sad part of our society. It's acceptable to be diabetic, but it is not acceptable to have a mental illness. One should commend this individual for his bravery to speak about his battle with bipolar disorder. Two of my family members are affected by bipolar disorder, and it is a hell I would not wish on my worst enemy or their familiy. "

Jim wrote on July 22, 2007 6:39 pm:
" As a manic-deppressive, my heart goes out for this gentleman and his victim as well. I have been fortunate enough to have a supportive family and care network, many do not. I think it is time to "rethink the wheel" and maybe start providing more facilities for the mentally ill. I believe this may really help in keeping the prison popualation down as well. "

comeon wrote on July 22, 2007 10:29 pm:
" I would rather them be locked up than hurting innocent people. Yes, they do need special help but they also need to live by the rules every other member of society is expected to. It seems like too many people are claiming a "disability" these days and quite frankly, it is making our system look like a joke. I think this guy should have recieved the charges he did, NO ONE has the right to try to enter a strangers house in the middle of the night or any other time. I am glad charges were pressed and disappointed he did not recieve jail time. Sick or not, you do the crime, you do the time. "

Zelda Fitzgerald wrote on July 23, 2007 2:45 am:
" I would be more sympathetic to Mr. Burke if he were 25 instead of 35.Bipolar disorder is usually diagnoed in early adulthood, when the challenge is helping patients accept thier diagnosis (no one wants to be mentally ill) and to be mature enough to stay on their medication. The initial energy and productivity in the early stages of mania are something that younger manic-depressives, in particular, find enjoyable, but then they get into jams when the manic phaee progresses. Maturity and acceptance are vital to healthy living with bipolar disorder. Many politicians talk about America's broken health care system. If it's broken in the context of physical health, it's a disaster in terms of mentally health. Mental illness touches everyone's lives. One in 10 people suffers from depression in their lifetime, and that includes your relatives, neighbors and co-workers. Unfortunately, many are unable to get the care they need because public resources are limited and, quite honestly, often not very good. Private insurance often involves limited coverage. (The insurance I have through my employer will pay only $5,000 -- lifetime -- for mental health treatment. Treatment for cancer? All the money I need.) If you care, contact your representatives in Washington and ask them to support insurance parity for mental health treatment. It's an issue they are addressing now, and would only add very nominally to the cost of health insurance. Finaly, think about health care in America when you decide who to vote for in '08. Elections matter. "

tampa husker wrote on July 23, 2007 6:16 am:
" And the ignorance continues! "

just asking?? wrote on July 23, 2007 7:00 am:
" I am wondering how one mentally ill man gets 6 months of probation for attempting to go into a house in the middle of the night,while another mentally ill man gets 50 years in prison??? If the jail deliberately withholds a person's medication, then releases them and they commit a crime - who should be locked up? "

Bi-polar wrote on July 23, 2007 7:01 am:
" The article was good but did not say what happened when Burke went to the hospital earlier that week. "

Likewise wrote on July 23, 2007 9:22 am:
" There are a lot of people who are mentally ill and functioning (more or less) in society. Depression is a mental illness which can drive one to just as many irrational acts as bipolar, or identity disorders. Each individual must be treated individually, and institutionalizing everyone with "disorders" (either in jails or in hospitals) is both impractical and ineffective. Also keep in mind that meds aren't always effective, must often be adjusted, and often have detrimental side-effects. They also don't address many social/psychological issues and behaviors. "

thewildeman wrote on July 23, 2007 9:44 am:
" I see a lot of judgment on this man without the facts being presented. This is what we call stigma. It's uneducated discrimination against the mentally ill. Question: Where in the article does it say when he was actually DIAGNOSED with EACH of his conditions? There's a difference with knowing that you have been suffering from mental illness all your life and actually knowing what those illnesses were. Question: How many illnesses does he have? All I see any of you talking about so far is bipolar disorder. READ AGAIN folks. He has more than that and when you combine these illnesses there are different factors and effects that can take YEARS to learn how to control. Tourettes syndrome takes away your control of varied and random outbursts, add anxiety syndrome and obsessive compulsive disorder and he doesn't have a whole lot of control over his actions once totally stressed out. He can learn control, but like I just stated, that can take years. Oh, then add in the mania he suffered and try to imagine understanding and relating to the world around you. No, he shouldn't have threatened to break windows or take the police car. His situation was complicated and he will need to understand that officers spend their days possibly risking their lives. They have to assess each situation and quell issues before they become a danger to them. I do find it interesting that they didn't feel him a danger to the public or himself, but had to "hit" him with any form of control tactics. I can see how he would see that as "beating the tar ouf of him". Oh and I want to say that just because a person has a mental illness doesn't mean that they are automatically worthy of being locked up. I have bipolar disorder, Asperger's Syndrome (High functioning autism), Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (from being abused in childhood), along with some minor side issues. You know what I like to do? Help people. I was the guy who jumped into action in the shooting that happened near Sur Tango recently. People were shaking my hand and calling me a "hero" and that isn't the first time that's happened to me. Now that you know that I have a mental illness, I wonder if you still think me capable of good? My actions have shown it, but you'd be amazed at how NO good action I do will ever prove myself to those who think that ALL PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS SHOULD BE LOCKED UP. Even if I save THEIR lives. The public needs and education and so does the State. The closing of proper medical centers has thrown suffering people into the streets to suffer even further. In retrospect, Burke is one of the LUCKY ones. I'm avaiable for comment. Have a blessed day. "

Sally Herrin wrote on July 23, 2007 10:15 am:
" I blame Ronald Reagan. Since no one apparently remembers, let me point out that Reagan pretty much invented homelessness as we know it by emptying out the facilities for long term care of the mentally ill. Locals were supposed to pick up the slack by providing community-based care. "

sick&tired wrote on July 23, 2007 12:08 pm:
" I am sick and tired of the rest of society making it sound like those with mental illness are not truly ill. That's a joke. As with any other disease, these people are suffering from a life altering disease where medications and constant trips to the doctor are a necessity. Unfortunately, when those with bipolar disorder are extremely manic, they don't know to take their meds or get to the doctor. I am a living example as I have been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and have been seeing doctors and taking meds for it for a long time. Unfortunately, I was not able to be diagnosed at an early age and was diagnosed in my late 20s after having it affect myself and those around me for many years. I can honestly say that it is amazing what medications and doctors can do. I don't believe that what Jimmy did was acceptable but I don't believe that he was a harm to others. I'm sure the lady whose doorbell he rang was scared as I would have been but it was an honest mistake. There was no harm intended. I also think that it's important that those of us who have been diagnoed with a mental illness use it to educate people instead of using it as a crutch. We need to set examples to show that, we too, are normal people. "

Michelle Bedke wrote on July 23, 2007 1:50 pm:
" As a former nurse of LCCD I have had the opportunity to work with this population. It is difficult for these clients to maintain their medication compliance for several reasons, first of all a great deal of them are without resources and finances. Secondly, when they are released from custody there isn't a discharge plan laid out before them. I am currently a Community Mental Health Nurse. I have discovered that this population requires a great deal of guidence and direction. There are programs that are available,if referred by the jail medical staff ie:General Assistance Program. This program provides medication and follow up doctors visits to members of our community that are being released from instutionalized situations. (much like the "Bridge Program" for prisoners) Third, there are limited facilities to "house" individuals with mental illness however, there are community programs available to assist them with independence and recovery. With the growing population of inmates and the limited medical/intake specialist staff at the County Jail it is difficult for these issues to be addressed.It's a shame. "

Gist wrote on July 23, 2007 2:31 pm:
" The subject of this story is the amount of time Lincoln police, and police everywhere, spend dealing with the acutely mentally ill. That is the problem. The problem will only be resolved when governments on every level cooperate to provide adequate mental health facilities to not only deal with people in a mental health crisis, as Burke was, but for ongoing support and counseling to prevent crises. Former Gov. Mike Johanns and other polticians have promised to improve Nebraska's mental health system -- how have they delivered on these promises? "

thewildeman wrote on July 23, 2007 3:35 pm:
" Nebraska is better about mental illness than ten years ago but there is still a great deal of work to be done. As for recent government promises, well, my opinion is rather narrow. Let's remember that the age of a person suffering should make no difference in whether or not we are sympathic. Suffering is suffering, it knows no discrimination and niether should we. "

Eagle Eye wrote on July 24, 2007 3:17 pm:
" The sanest person in the world when unjustly forced to deal with a cop might wish they were lucky enough to be speaking with someone with a head on their shoulders. If empathy is not the outstanding characteristic of some of the most educated people in the world, who are often just bent on calculation and manipulation to get their own way, it certainly is not high on the list of job qualifications for police officers. We for sure do not value emotional intelligence and healthy communication skills highly enough in this society. "

Out there wrote on July 25, 2007 12:24 pm:
" My sister was majorly mentally ill, and yes she did weird things. And the last people who should be determining if someone is a danger to themselves or someone else is the cops. They have no training to deal with mentally ill people and have to deal all the other criminal elements in our society which makes desensitized to the plight of the mentally ill. People high on drugs often act like mentally ill people. It should be up to the family to decide if the mentally ill person needs help, not the cops. And for all you people who have never known a mentally ill person and judge them, I wish you could live just a few days mentally ill, you would not be so holier than thou. We need more funding for mental health facilities, not less! Sally Henson it was the ACLU that is responible for the plight of the mentally ill not Ronald Reagan. "

more work to do! wrote on July 26, 2007 10:53 am:
" Comments in this article, as well as many from the last couple of days demonstrate we have much work to do in regards to understanding the needs of those with mental illness (yes,it is an illness - no different than any other illness but effects the brain), as well as educating and training law enforcement officers, probation officers, correction officers, 911 operators, and more. With everyone working to ensure people get the help they need and become productive citizens of our communities, jails and prison populations may decrease, crisis beds in hospitals may not be used unnecessarily, and people reacting with lack of sensitivity may be minimized. Police officers will react with force or insensitivity (much like comments in this article) when they are not properly educated and trained - with no other tools to utilize, they will resort to what they know. Police training on how to interact and respond to persons with mental illness is now happening and it is about time! We owe the vulnerable people in our communities respect, dignity, and understanding. That is when we can truly help them! "

Use Your Head wrote on July 27, 2007 5:45 am:
" Obviously Jimmy knew what was right and wrong...Jimmy volunteered to do something criminal so that he could be taken to jail! And what happened? Jimmy obviously did commit a crime, one for which he was recently convicted. For all of you who say that police officers lack sympathy and patience, you try to do their job. The article describes Jimmy as 6’1” and 350 lbs. Can each of you say that you could physically handle Jimmy? And when diplomacy runs out, which the article indicates that it did, then what? You cannot wear kid gloves all day long. At the end of the day, these men and women need to be able to go home too. If someone mentally ill looses control, regardless of their position in life, they will have to deal with the justified force used against them. Nothing in this article indicates that Jimmy received any unnecessary force. The reality of the situation is this: If you can't manage to take your meds, then you end up in bad situations. Stop blaming everyone else for the problems that you create. "

Kristine wrote on July 31, 2007 3:26 pm:
" One point that I would like to make, is that a huge amount of the population has no idea that they are mentally ill. It can be one of those things that you find out about after something dramatic (as is relayed in this story) happens, or some people never get officially diagnosed. The stats are high. Just because you've never had any psych testing on you doesn't mean YOU are not suffering from some type of mental illness. Just because YOU don't go to counseling doesn't mean that maybe you shouldn't, or couldn't benefit from it. And psychiatric care is expensive, bottom line. A police officer (where do you get that they receive no training for this??) often will encounter a person and have to make their best decision at that moment. That's their skill, that's why we hired them, and it's something not many would want to do. Of course it's easy to criticize. "

Lincolnite wrote on August 4, 2007 10:49 am:
" Several years back I and neighbors spent a day dealing with an obviously mentally ill stranger inn our neighborhood. Then, I was told by a Police Team Captain that when police take a person to be evaluated an officer has to sit with them at the hospital and there are so many incidents that he just did not have the number of officers to take off the street to sit in the hospital with them for hours. The police therefore often just ignore the people disturbing the peace and safety of the neighborhood. Underfunding and misappropriation of funds gives us this while Warren Buffet's money goes to Africa. "