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Smoking will be off-limits outside Lincoln hospitals

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By MARK ANDERSEN / Lincoln Journal Star

Wednesday, Jun 06, 2007 - 03:11:21 pm CDT

Outdoor smoking areas will disappear at Lincoln’s three largest hospitals when the Times Square crystal ball falls this New Year’s Day.

Canvas smoke tents will come down. Designated smoking areas in parking garages will disappear.

No smoking or tobacco will be allowed for doctors, nurses or patients. No quick puffs outside front doors or anywhere else on campus.

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BryanLGH Medical Center East (LJS file)

The lone exception will be an addiction treatment program.

Officials from both BryanLGH Medical Center campuses, Saint Elizabeth Regional Medical Center and Madonna Rehabilitation Hospital jointly announced their new policy Tuesday.

“As health care providers, our mission is to provide healing care and provide healthy lifestyle choices,” said Craig Ames of BryanLGH.

Officials said it was important the hospitals take this step together. They began discussions last fall.

The big three join the Nebraska Heart Hospital, which banned tobacco products Jan. 1, saying it needed to walk the talk of healthy living.

Paul Dongilli of Madonna said the new bans would create healthier hospital atmospheres.

“The effects of secondhand smoke are well documented,” he said. Smoking also slows recovery from illness.

Madonna spokeswoman Molly Nance said the ban would include the hospital’s long-term patients and permanent residents.

Ames said the Independence Center at BryanLGH West was excluded because patients there already are dealing with alcohol and chemical dependency.

“It’s difficult to deal with multiple addictions at one time,” he said.

The ban will be observed in the hospital’s mental health area.

Despite the defeat of a statewide smoke ban in the Unicameral this year, the policy underscores how much things have changed since the 1950s when ads proclaimed: “More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette.”

Saint Elizabeth executive Charlotte Liggett recalled the 1970s, when nurses would stop in the break room for a smoke on their way to duty.

The Nebraska Hospital Association said almost a third of Nebraska hospitals have banned tobacco on their campuses, and half of the remainder plan to go tobacco-free within one year. The association estimates state residents pay $1 billion every year for medical expenses and lost productivity related to smoking.

The new policy affects roughly 1,000 employee smokers, who will all have access to quit-smoking programs. It also will affect about 10,000 patients and their families annually, based on estimates from hospital tax statements.

Ames of BryanLGH said the hospitals plan to enforce the ban. They expect most smokers will comply.

J. Hoffman of Nebraska Heart  Hospital has become the primary enforcer at his organization.

Regardless of how many signs are placed, he said, an occasional visitor will wander outside the hospital door for a smoke. Once they’re informed the policy is to protect patient and employee health, “We haven’t had a complaint.”

Tom Burnell, CEO of Nebraska Heart, said some employees chose to quit smoking once the ban began. He provided no numbers.

Last year, the Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department noted that about one-fourth of county smokers had quit since Lincoln banned indoor public smoking.

The Lincoln Surgical Hospital also is smoke free, CEO Robb Linafelter said Tuesday, although enforcement is spotty.

Many families light up as they  walk into the parking lot. There’s no designated smoking area, but employees sit in their cars, he said.

Bob Lanik of Saint Elizabeth said the response from within his hospital had been one of applause.

He passed along comments from one smoker surveyed in anticipation of the ban.

The employee wrote: “I’m embarrassed. It’s a disgusting habit. This will make me quit.”

Reach Mark Andersen at 473-7238 or mandersen@journalstar.com.


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ALW6 wrote on June 6, 2007 2:03 am:
" There is no better health education regarding smoking than banning it in or near any hospital. It's much more effective in combatting smoking than a million anti-smoking ads on TV or radio. People standing in front of a place where lots of people are dying of lung cancer, emphysema and heart disease want to smoke...and when they are forced not to smoke they MUST think about it, and abstain, and it's cool for smokers to just agree and say, "yeah, why not abstain? We're at a hospital..." On the other hand, bars should allow smoking because they allow drinking. Non-Smoking bars should proudly make money by being a non-smoking bar. You can avoid bars that allow smoking. You can't avoid the hospital. Compromise. Let free entersprise work...And let common sense have a place in the debate. Sometimes there are two sides to issues, which, I understand, is not popular in the anonymous world of online responses. "

omnione wrote on June 6, 2007 2:04 am:
" Just wait, someone from the pro-smoking and anti-smoking ban crowds will make a comment here about how this decision will negatively impact Lincoln's quality of health care due to the decrease in hospital revenue from smokers going to the hospital for lung and heart problems. Then they will point out how Lincoln has the worst economic policies in the nation and how their property taxes will go up yet again due to the incompetence of City Hall. "

connie wrote on June 6, 2007 5:19 am:
" Actually, if you read the studies at all, the effects of second-hand smoke are NOT well documented, but that's neither here nor there. Smoking is bad for you, you should quit. BUT, I feel very sorry for people who have been smoking for 40 years, have a loved one in critical condition in the hospital, and now won't even be allowed to step outside for 5 minutes of relaxation with a smoke. Adding to the stress of the situation they're already in, they're supposed to suffer through cold-turkey nicotene withdrawal too? I notice the hospital bows to the need for it's recovering addicts to continue to be allowed this stress-reducer. Seems unfair to me that they don't give the man who's wife is undergoing life-threatening heart surgery the same consideration. I quit smoking 30 years ago during my first pregnancy, they say my kind (reformed smokers) are the worst, but I would never DREAM of telling the person next to me they couldn't light up, especialy if it was a person with a loved one in the hospital! "

Roger W wrote on June 6, 2007 6:18 am:
" I often wondered why employees were allowed to smoke outside of a Hospital, just did not make sense. This is an idea whos time has come and past and it is about time all buildings anywhere have this put into effect. Smoke free is just that smoke free. "

J wrote on June 6, 2007 6:21 am:
" Let's just make cigarettes illegal! Oh wait, everyone loves the tax money they bring in. "

whatever wrote on June 6, 2007 6:24 am:
" I highly doubt state residents pay anything close to $1 billion dollars in smoking related costs. I would like to know how The Nebraska Hospital Association came up with this number. The Journal Star should question numbers like this instead of just "blindly reporting it". "

balanced wrote on June 6, 2007 7:16 am:
" I wonder if they are taking an equal look at what is offered in the cafeteria and at the snack bars. Being overweight is America's most widespread malady. Coffee is probably not real good for your health either. Or maybe it is "your addictions that are off limits but don't touch mine." "

gram b wrote on June 6, 2007 7:40 am:
" I'm glad to see these bans go into effect. I have a twin who is almost 2 hours younger than me. My mother and the doctor took a cigarette break between us. Times are really different, thank goodness. "

James wrote on June 6, 2007 8:01 am:
" About time! I always laugh when I see health care professionals out smoking. Even the janitors. I'd be embarrassed too. "

Hooray wrote on June 6, 2007 8:08 am:
" Non-smoking employees of BryanLGH say, "IT'S ABOUT TIME!" "

JoeMerchant24 wrote on June 6, 2007 8:27 am:
" Fremont Area Medical Center launches their smoke-free campus on July 1. "

Amused wrote on June 6, 2007 8:33 am:
" After reading this article I'm quite amused and can definitely tell who made this decision...not the employees who put in the long hours and don't get acknowledged, or the patients & families who are possibly going through one of the most stressfull times in their lives. I personally do not smoke, but I want to know who gives the "higher ups" the right to say how to deal with stress. I laugh at the fact that they think that the families of patients who just had a traumatic brain injury or spinal cord injury and have smoked for many years are going to quit during a stressful time. Give me a break. And to the "higher ups".. Thanks for making me work with nurses and therapists who smoke and are already overworked and underpaid and now don't get the smoke break that they are entitled to....Go ahead give yourself a pat on the back. I'm also wondering if Craig Ames, Paul Dongilli, Molly Nance, and Tom Burnell have looked into whether or not these hospitals could be liable when employees and patients are going to cross the street to smoke and what if they get hit by a car? All I can say is give me a break. No wonder why the CEOs and managers got raises this year but the other employees didn't. They came up with rocket science. "

Nina wrote on June 6, 2007 8:39 am:
" Health care workers will now be forced to "walk the walk." Or jog out beyond the grounds to take a puff on break. It makes good sense healthwise, but this should make those who whine about wearing helmets on cycles, or seatbelts in cars, count their blessings. Next I look for there to be no dessert served in the hospital cafeterias, or to patients (whine). "

Mike Honcho wrote on June 6, 2007 8:55 am:
" You say you want to know what gives these people the right to decide? I'd say the fact that they own and run the place gives them the right. If the smoking patients and employees don't like the policy...no one is forcing them to stay. "

CS wrote on June 6, 2007 8:58 am:
" There is nothing in the practical license of a health care professional that dictates what they can and cannot do to themselves. It is arrogant for you to say that 'now they have to walk the walk'. If a doctor wants to smoke or not wear a helmet or eat dessert, so be it. They are informed adults and can make that decision on their own. I get so sick of hearing about 'whine-my health care pays for everyone elses bad habit, blah blah'. It does. Thats what it is for. If you think the cost is prohibitive get different insurance or don't have any. Health care insurance is this new thing that everyone just seems to assume has always been there, but it hasn't. I'm tired of people saying things like this-next thing you know there will be laws that govern what teachers can do on their own time regardless of if they are not breaking any laws or statutes. So quiet the death of free will and personal responsibility. "

Tim wrote on June 6, 2007 9:13 am:
" You know, reading these comments, I am vastly amused. I would bet that the majority who are complaining about the hospitals banning smoking on their property are the same group of people who said that business owners should be allowed to decide if people could smoke in bars/restaraunts. Well..here are some business owners. They have decided. Shut up. "

JoBeth wrote on June 6, 2007 9:14 am:
" Great, let's just add to the stress of the families of patients. While we are at it, let's make sure all the junk food, and unhealthy food has been removed from all vending machines and the cafeteria. No more burgers and fries, regular pop, and only decar coffee. "

Nate wrote on June 6, 2007 9:20 am:
" Hilarious; when the government institutes a public smoking ban, a select few people say, 'Wait, it's the business owners' choice!' When the business owner says, 'No smoking on any of my property,' the same crowd goes, 'Wait, it's the choice of the hardworking employees!' Unbelievable. "

ex-smoker x1 year wrote on June 6, 2007 9:34 am:
" I wish it was banned outside all buildings and in cars for that matter. Since moving to Nebraska, I am sickened by seeing people driving with children in their cars and smoking at the same time. I can smell the horrible smell 2 car lengths behind them, think how their children are suffering inside the vehicles. Having grown up with smoking parents, I know the pain these children face. I cannot even take my kids to certain buildings because one is extremley sensitive to smoke, and there are always crowds of smokers by the front door. It is so disgusting. I hate even working by people who smoke, because the stench of their clothing, hair, and breath makes me nauseated. Smokers should only be allowed to smoke INSIDE their own home and ONLY if children do not live or visit there. It is a disgusting, nasty, smelly habit that others should not have to live with. If my neighbors smoke on their deck, we have to close our windows. They are voilating my space. Having lived it, smoked it, and now been reformed, I am for a 100% total ban on smoking and evening making them illegal. I know making them illegal might not stop the criminals, but it would help to stop those sick, unfit mothers and fathers who smoke with their kids in the car. Can CPS get involved with them? Endangerment of a child? "

Mike Honcho wrote on June 6, 2007 9:34 am:
" Please, take the ignorant comparisons to junk food and coffee elsewhere. The last time I checked, when someone ate a greasy burger, you arteries didn't clog up as a result of you being nearby. Or, when someone downs that double espresso, you don't get the jitters simply by watching them. If there was some magical way for the smokers to keep all of the smoke to themselves, then maybe you'd be able to compare these habits...but there isn't, so don't. Furthermore, I remember all of the pro-smoking crowd complaining that this is a property rights issue...well, here's your chance to support property owners for choosing for themselves...but where are you at? If these smokers truly need to get their fix...they can do something healthy and walk to the nearest public sidewalk and smoke there...but please don't be like they typical smoker and just toss your butt on the ground...they weigh less than an ounce...muster your strength and carry them to a trash can...or get a pocket ashtray. "

rebel wrote on June 6, 2007 9:44 am:
" Regional West Hospital in Scottsbluff has had that ban for almost a year. Whenever I go up there, I toss my cig out the window in the parking lot to remind them that their dictatorship is not appreciated. "

JH wrote on June 6, 2007 9:58 am:
" Nevermind the fact that smoking can kill you and then your poor loved one would be under stress watching you die. Apparently you smokers don't realize how bad you stink after you smoke a cigarette. And those who try to cover it up with perfume stink even worse. The last thing a person in the hospital needs is a smoky person around them whether it be a hospital worker or their own family. Stop thinking about yourselves and realize how your actions violate the right of others to breathe clean air. Too bad the state won't do the same thing. Have you ever tried to wade through the fog of smoke trying to enter the State Office Building downtown? It's digusting. "

thank you wrote on June 6, 2007 9:58 am:
" I'm so glad to hear this..I'm a nonsmoker who works at BryanLGH and was getting pretty tired of employees taking 15 min smoke breaks whenever they wanted and coming back reaking of smoke THank YOU... "

KP wrote on June 6, 2007 10:00 am:
" Yes, I always kind of chuckled every time I saw a doctor or nurse smoking. But same goes for eating, I couldn't believe the weight my doctor had put on the last apptmt. I had. And I fight to try to lose weight, so he's no help. I like to watch "Becker" on TV that plays a doctor and he constantly has a cigeratte but maybe its suppose to show how dumb he is. "

Fred Register wrote on June 6, 2007 10:01 am:
" Wait a minute wasn't it supposed to be the business owners who decided a few weeks ago....? Well they decided didn't they? Again there is a serious need for the analogy police as well. Not only does eating snack foods or burgers not necessarily lead to obesity if one is active enough, whereas smoking ALWAYS causes harm, but even when it does, that obesity harms only the person making that choice, unlike smoking. "

Mercy wrote on June 6, 2007 10:09 am:
" So wait your telling me if I'm in a hospital for a surgury that is life threatining, I can't go outside and have a last puff. Thanks Lincoln, could you please just take all my rights away. It's no wonder lots of celebs are leaving the USA. Thanks to my fore fathers who gave me rights so the govn. and people in charge can take them away. The next generations may grow up really mad, violence increase, all because by the time my daughter is 20 she won't have the right to wipe her own butt............I have a right to smoke my cig, as long as I don't blow it in your face. You have a right to pick your wedge, but wait the people of the good ol' USA will take that away too. I bet next you'll get a ticket for disiplining your kids in to store. How would you like it if someone said you can go home and relax but you can't have your beer, it's bad for you. Boooo Hoooo, I am watching my rights go down the drain. "

D.A. wrote on June 6, 2007 10:31 am:
" This is great. Everyone in the health care profession should abstain from tobacco use in their personal life. Using tobacco is a direct conflict with the fundamental priciples of health care, so what kind of credibility does a health care professional have if they smoke or chew? Tobacco is in fact, the only product I can think of that when used as directed, even in moderation, will not only increase the chance of contracting a serious disease, but can kill you. It also creates problems for anyone near when used in moderation. Alcohol, when used in moderation and as directed will not do this, nor will fast food. The argument of comparing alcohol and fast food to tobacco use is intellectually weak and is the last straw for smokers to grab when they try to defend their pathetic addiction. "

Sam wrote on June 6, 2007 10:32 am:
" For those smokers who are stressed about visiting a sick patient...go smoke in your car out in the parking lot. You can be left alone in there to wallow in the offensive smoke that you put into our air. "

Sam wrote on June 6, 2007 10:35 am:
" Oh, and about removing all the dessert & "fattening" foods from the cafeteria...the last time I checked, the only people those items harm are the ones who decide to feed their faces with it. I suppose if someone walked up to me and shoved a ding dong down my throat, I could compare that to being forced to breathe in someone else's cigarette/cigar/pipe smoke. "

hate to break it to you wrote on June 6, 2007 11:24 am:
" Mercy...it's already been said...if OWNERS decide that they don't want smoking on THEIR property it is THEIR RIGHT as AMERICANS...btw, what's to stop you from crossing the street to a public sidewalk. "

Mike Honcho wrote on June 6, 2007 12:06 pm:
" Yes...littering on hospital grounds sends a definite message...though not the one you intend. Hospital management probably won't even see the cigarette butt since they don't park in the same area as patients. The only message you send is that you care nothing for the natural world, and that pollution of any form is just fine with you. Way to be a rebel. "

Sarah wrote on June 6, 2007 12:14 pm:
" THANK YOU!!! While I was expecting our second child, it was so frustrating walking through the smoke to get into Bryan East to see my OB. Didn't make me feel too good to breath it for myself but then to pass it to my unborn child was really frustrating. I feel this is a GREAT move in a very positive direction for all three establishments. THANK YOU! "

An Angel's mother wrote on June 6, 2007 12:28 pm:
" I can't tell you how Great this is for those of us, who have had to travel past smokers...while taking our sick children who have cancer to the hospital for treatments, lab checks, scans etc. The worst feeling in the world is to know that you & your child our fighting for their life and to have to walk past people who are smoking right in front of the door.....nasty & wrong. I'm glad someone finally realized the importance of this!!!!! God does work in his own way!!! May my sweet 12 year old Angel and many others who are with her, know that someone is now looking out for the well being of others who are still here fighting. "

Jeff wrote on June 6, 2007 12:41 pm:
" I all for banning public-use of tobacco while continuing to heavily tax it. I am also for the decriminalization of cannibis in designated locations, also heavily taxed. You can't have one illegal and the other not. "

jay wrote on June 6, 2007 12:42 pm:
" As a smoker, I will stipulate that smoking is a health hazard, that it smells, and obviously in some cases offends people. I am also a smoker who throws the butts in proper recepticals and not on the ground. I do my best to step away from doors where people enter and basically not to shove it in your face. Will smoking kill me, it may and if it does, probably won't be pleasant. Do I support a business deciding what can and cannot do on their property - yes, most definately. Do I like it, no. Does it offend me, a little. THAT IS OK. There is no law that says I have a right to not be offended. I also don't have to like everything. THATS LIFE. If you are offended by me or by the way my clothes smell, good. You are welcome to be offended by me anytime, I don't mind. If you think my "second-hand" smoke is going to kill you while you are walking by me outside, grow up. "

Gee whiz wrote on June 6, 2007 12:48 pm:
" Maybe those who smoke to deal with stress could find a new outlet, like walking or something! As an ex-smoker, it is amazing how much better you feel by taking a quick walk and being able to breathe. Make some lifestyle changes for the better! "

Lola wrote on June 6, 2007 1:12 pm:
" just walk across the street and burn one up!!! that's what they do at the public schools here in Lincoln. I picked up a sick kid last week and there were employees just standing across the street from the school smokin away.. I think that is a bad example for students. "

Mercy wrote on June 6, 2007 1:12 pm:
" I have no problem crossing the street to have a cig, but, I'm sure to 50-70 year olds crossing the street will have a problem. I'll smoke in my car and then dump a ashtray on the pollitical parking lot. Also with all the money they have you would think they could keep a area. What about the patent's who want to smoke? I know every time I've been in the hospital I've went to smoke, and there is no way they are going to stop me. Everyone pays a lot of money to heath care proffessionals, at least they could do is help us save our rights. Oh and to the ex-smoker x1 year, judge away, for you are only judging yourself. I bet you have your own addiction, just you hide it. Beer is worse, I've never killed anyone from smoking a carton and driving. Stay out of my business and I'll stay out of your. Ex smoker for on year point your finger at me and your pointing 3 more at your snobby self. "

Employee wrote on June 6, 2007 1:28 pm:
" I work at BryanLGH and HORRAY for all the Lincoln hospital for finally going smoke free! It is really disgusting to walk in and out of the front doors of the facility and have to walk through the smoke, then to top that off walk the stairwells in the parking garages with the smoke that is lingering....YUCK! It does not help when people like me who have asthma to have to breathe that in. It is a gross, disgusting habit. "

Mike Honcho wrote on June 6, 2007 1:36 pm:
" First of all, I don't know where this alleged "right" to smoke wherever you want came from, but if you can find it for me, I'd be very interested to read it. Tossing out your cigarette butts and dumping your ashtrays in protest doesn't actually improve your image or message, all it does is reveal to us that you like your world to be as filthy as your lungs. Oh...and sidewalks are public property, so a person wouldn't necessarily HAVE to cross the street to suck down another dose of cancer. I find it hilarious that the pro-smoking establishment continues to change and redefine their argument. When Lincoln's smoking ban first passed...they cared first-and-foremost about a business's right to choose. Now that businesses have chosen, the smokers don't like the choice...and now it's all of the sudden a matter of what THEY want! In a last ditch effort, they decide to trot out the health and safety argument...that the stress is bad for their health, and it isn't safe to cross a street to smoke. News flash...smoking is killing you, and if you actually cared about your health and safety, you'd throw all your cigarettes in the trash. But hey, so goes the drumbeat of the selfish smoker (not applicable to EVERY smoker). "

Be Responsible wrote on June 6, 2007 1:39 pm:
" Nothing gives smokers a bad rep more than those who dump their cig trash in the parking lot, on the street, drop their butts on private property or flick ashes/cigs out the car window without any disregard for anyone else. If you want to smoke, fine. The hospital makes its own rules and if you don't like it, go somewhere else. Personally, I get tired of irresponsible, selfish smokers who think the world is their cig trash can. "

DH wrote on June 6, 2007 2:23 pm:
" My only concern is as an employee of one of these hospitals, how many smokers will now try to sneak a smoke in the restrooms? They were already sneaking whenever the weather was bad. I think the ban is great, but if I had the choice between them smoking outside or in the bathroom...I would pick outside any day. "

Hey Mercy wrote on June 6, 2007 2:29 pm:
" you go right ahead and dump your ashtray, it's only a $100 fine for littering, that will show them how smart you are. "

RCE wrote on June 6, 2007 2:42 pm:
" Those of you complaining about how all of your rights are being taken away....give me a break. Do you all remember a time when smoking was allowed INSIDE hospitals? Well, as time goes on and we learn more and more about the dangers of things, we realize that maybe that's not such a good idea. So you can't smoke in hospitals anymore. I don't hear anyone complaining about that anymore! No one is taking away your right to smoke. They are just trying to protect those who choose not to smoke. Simple as that. Quit trying to act so victimized and think about others for a change! You sound absolutely rediculous when you say your going to litter your cigarette butts in the parking lot...grow up. And enough of the analogies between smoking and eating and alcohol! There is no comparison! "

jb wrote on June 6, 2007 3:09 pm:
" As someone who smokes I will flat out tell you that if a loved one is in the hospital and I choose to go outside to have a smoke in a place where nobody else is the powers that be will have one **** of a time trying to stop me. It just so happens I am very concientous about where I smoke and I never smoke anywhere that may intrude upon a persons right to clean air "

JMN wrote on June 6, 2007 3:10 pm:
" I applaud their decision. For anyone who has ever suffered from post-anesthesia (or chemo-related)nauseau....there is NOTHING worse than having a nurse or respiratory therapist who just returned from a "smoke break" (and of course they take many, while the non-smoking nurses cover their patients and go without breaks altogether!)lean over your body smelling like an ashtray, causing you to lose your lunch. It's about time someone looked out for the patients' well being and their rights. After all, they are the paying customers! "

BB wrote on June 6, 2007 3:41 pm:
" TO "REBEL" it is that exact attitude that makes it real hard to have any sympathy for smokers! It would be great if a cop would see him and ticket him like $500. for littering! "

jb wrote on June 6, 2007 3:54 pm:
" OK JMN, if the patient is the paying customer than he or she should have the right to go out and have a amoke, at least by your reasoning they should "

Funny.... wrote on June 6, 2007 4:06 pm:
" For all you smokers, let's put this in perspective. We all share the same air right? Just like at a pool, we're all sharing the same water. So I get mad when you’re polluting our air, but you say it’s your right to smoke and you don't care about my health risks. Would you be mad if I “polluted” the water at the pool? Yeah….thought so. "

Mercy wrote on June 6, 2007 4:12 pm:
" I DIDN'T MEAN I'D ACTUALLY DUMP MY ASHTRAY! I was mad and am made cause I feel it's my right to kill my lungs. I don't hang in doorways and always put my cig out on the ground and the butt goes in my pocket. I really feel that gov. and a lot of people are out to take rights away. And it's my right. I also have 2 kids and never would put them in a room enclosed with cig's. I do NOT smoke in my house. I't my addiction and I'm good with that, but that still doesn't help me if I'm admitted at the hospital (Even though I'm paying to be there) I'm going to have to discharge myself to smoke a cig, the re-admit myself when I'm done.....Duh no doctor would authorize going out to smoke. I'm just saying some people who are admitted to the hospital and are heavy smokers, they might have a problem. I also know if your in the hospital you don't need to go smoke, cause it's not good for you etc..., but with any addiction that can be almost impossible to stop. Also dealing with the problems your having in the the first place to put you in the hospital, dealing with stress and quitting smoking. No. "

Hacking cough wrote on June 6, 2007 4:32 pm:
" Smoking should only be allowed in the following places: 1. In your house if you own it outright - but with the windows closed. 2. In your car only if you own it outright - but with the windows closed. Smoking should never be allowed outside on public or private property because air currents carry the poison where people breath. Tossing a cigarette butt on the ground should be punishable to $1000 and six months in jail. "

Kelly wrote on June 6, 2007 4:54 pm:
" The Nazi's are winning. Take down the Twinkie machines also then and ban junk food. Obesity is becoming the health issue of our times. "

Sarah wrote on June 6, 2007 4:57 pm:
" Wow what a judgemental group of people we have here today. To me this makes sense banning smoking on hospital grounds but alot of these comments are way over the top. You guys need to relax, maybe light up a cigarette yourself before your heads blow up. "

JoBeth wrote on June 6, 2007 4:57 pm:
" Let us remember when you scoff at my comments about junk food, that obesity is now the number one health care issue in the US. One does not get obese from second hand smoke. "

Laurie wrote on June 6, 2007 5:12 pm:
" Smokers who "are careful about their smoke" (and hospital workers especially) should be aware that even when they are conscientious about their smoke, they themselves will still STINK when they come back from their break. I don't think most smokers realize how repellent they smell, because most of us are too polite to mention it. And no, perfume doesn't cover it up. Most hospitals have a policy against wearing scent anyway, so that you don't make already sick people feel sicker. This should also apply to smokers and their "scent". However, I think the main reason the hospitals banned smoking is because they were sick and tired of smoker's "15 minute" breaks becoming 25 minutes because it takes the smokers 5 minutes to get to the smoking tent to do their thing, and 5 minutes back. Newsflash kids: your co-workers don't like it either. Consider yourselves informed. "

wow wrote on June 6, 2007 6:05 pm:
" I hate to say this but this is not going to get people to quit smoking! It's only going to make people want to rebel even worse. Are they going to post someone outside the hospitals at every entrance to monitor and hand out tickets to those who don't abide? Probably not! We have designated smoking areas for employees and pts and do you think everyone stays in those little confined areas to smoke....no, these are the ones you speak of standing by the door ways blowing smoke in your faces. This is going to do nothing but maybe make a few more people "feel better" because the hospitals are now supposedly smoke free! Wow...I can't wait to see how much this will change things. And oh yeah about the nurses/docs smelling like smoke...news flash just because they don't smoke while their at work for 8 hours doesn't mean they will be completly free of smelling like smoke. I work at Bryan lgh and can understand the employees not being able to smoke but the pt's are here and in a sense are paying customers. And by the way the parking garages are off limits as well because they are on hospital grounds. "

mv wrote on June 6, 2007 6:22 pm:
" As someone who recently quit smoking. The smoking ban will not affect me. Do some of these comments that are beeing made offend me YES. Smokers do not deserve to be treated as dirty, nasty stupid individuals. Some of us have been smoking long before the "warning" was put on the package. I considered myself a VERY considerate smoker. I would not smoke anywhere around nonsmokers and did not dispose of my butts on the ground. I know I am not the only one. Are there inconsiderate smokers YES just as there are inconsiderate nonsmokers. The rules have changed and now we have to follow them enough said. I just wonder if some of the very outspoken nonsmokers are also some of the very inconsiderate cell phone users. "

tcan wrote on June 6, 2007 6:35 pm:
" This is hardly comparable to the prior smoking ban. This is a law that prohibits patients and employees from smoking OUTDOORS in designated areas on their own time. The smoking areas at BryanLGH are not in prominent locations, not in front of doors, and not placed in an area in which anyone might be forced to breathe in their toxic, terrifying fumes. It's one thing to police the persons working for you, but to insist that everyone being treated or visiting the establishment adhere to such a bizarre policy is a bit disturbing. Might they also be removing the vending machines to prevent patients and employees from making unhealthy snack choices? Will they do away with elevators, save for the physically disabled, because the stairs are a healthier lifestyle choice? "

NURSE wrote on June 6, 2007 9:42 pm:
" I very RARELY take care of pts who have a "smoking" related illness...yet I FREQUENTLY take care of patients who have illness related to OVER-EATING. Hmmm, heard of diabetes? arteriosclerosis? decreased mobility? degeneretive joint disease? knee replacement surgery? non-healing ulcers? do I need to go on? Do you really think those things are NOT causing insurance premium increases???? "

NL wrote on June 6, 2007 10:13 pm:
" I myself would rather be cared for by a happy nurse, rather than one who was forced to give up their cigarettes. They deal with life and death and sadness everyday, if smoking gives them a little comfort, than I'm all for it. Lincoln's beginning to look a lot like "Somber Town". "

Joseph P. Sokolovsky wrote on June 6, 2007 10:14 pm:
" Good...a step in the right direction. Soon people will only be able to smoke in their car or home...daaaa..are you smokers getting the message it is a dirty, stinky habit that ruins your health? "

jo wrote on June 6, 2007 10:45 pm:
" I quit smoling about 2 years ago, and being subject to it makes me crazy. Now I'm fatter, but at least my eating isn't affecting anyone else's health, other then my apperence, LOL. I keep seeing/hearing"what about my rights" that's a cop out,your panicking, you know you need to quit and your scared as hell it's going to kill you. You can do it! Please just keep trying. I did. "

missing the point wrote on June 6, 2007 11:25 pm:
" This is what business owners can do on private property. believe it or not, the hospitals are private property and a private business like any other in this town, like a bar, store or supermarket. It's not a law, it's a rule of private property, and if you break it, they can have the police remove you from the property and issue you with a no trespassing warrant, and then you won't be able to go see those that re sick in the hospital, so you go right ahead and make sure that your smoking is more important than providing comfort to those in the hospital. "

whatever wrote on June 6, 2007 11:28 pm:
" Actually the argument about what a person eats affecting others does have merit. Sure it's not exactly the same thing as smoking, but what we choose to eat has significant environmental impacts. Let's talk livestock and water quality, let's talk junk food and the CMEMICALS that are used to produce them. The chemical factory is somewhere affecting someone's air or water. Fruits and Vegetables? Hey, a lot of this is planted via chemical and DNA engineering that has a host of affects on the soil, other plant life, animal and insect life. Then we could begin to discuss how my and your health insurance rates, taxes etc are affected due to the poor eating habits of many millions of people with disgusting and offensive eating habits and their poor health. Is it the same thing as having a little smoke blown in your face? No. But again to suggest what we eat has no affect on anyone else, or does not infringe on someone's lifestyle isn't being even remotely intellectually honest. I could go on a few more paragraphs on driving habits and choice of personal vehicles and it's impact on other people, but I'll save that discussion when the new MPG and Clean Air legislation gets going in earnest. "

smoke em wrote on June 7, 2007 1:19 am:
" if you want, just don't let me catch you tossing your butts on my property that is across the street from one of these facilities. You will wind up eating that butt. Keep your habit and all of its by-products to yourself. Fine with me if you want to disrespect your health, but don't disrespect the private property in the vicinity of these health care facilities. "

think about it wrote on June 7, 2007 3:00 am:
" To those of you who think that $1 billion/year is not possible for taxpayers to pay, you are not considering all the medicare and medicaid patients. Many people that have COPD and other lung related problems from smoking are disabled and their medical costs are paid for by taxpayers. You would be surprised at the costs that a long term ventilator patient can rack up in a year. Add that to children with chronic lung problems due to parents smoking. As a health care provider, I am not surprised by that number at all. "

focus wrote on June 7, 2007 3:26 am:
" Let this statement I'm about to state swhirl around in your brains and hearts. The same city (Lincoln) that passed the city wide smoking ban over a year ago. Approved and passed a law to where it is legal to carry a conceled weapon recently. So let me get this straight, you can walk around the city of Lincoln with a conceled weapon but GOD FORBID YOU LIGHT UP A CIGARETTE. MMMMM...so at las you won't have to walk through smoke at any entrances at the hospital, however unless there is a sign on the door of the hopital that states "conceled weapons are prohibited in this building" you could be walking by a distressed indivdual who is carrying a conceled weapon....LEAGALLY. I myself would pefer to see a smoker standing off to the side smoking. Than see someone upset pacing and reaching for their pocket. Now in case your wondering I'm actually in favor of the right to smoke and to carry a conceled weapon. However the fact that this city raises more of a stink about smoking than people being able to carry conceled weapons blows me away. Priorities people, why are we worrying about smoking that has been around for decades and will continue, when there are much bigger problems brewing. I'm much more disturbed with the people that are allowed to protest at a fallen military persons funeral, allowed to stomp and burn the american flag. Allowed to be here illegally, break the law, and still have more rights than us Americans. Wake up people, you may get everywhere smoke free. But lets face it, the way things are going in the country.....Evil Cigarette Smoke will be the least of your problems. "

Smoker who likes smoke free policy wrote on June 7, 2007 5:53 am:
" PArt of the reason why I think it is great that Bryan is going smoke free is because the general public never adhered to the smoking area. They would hang out by the patient dismissal door and puff away. If you asked them to go to the smoking area that is far away from where patients are, I've had people say whatever. People just don't get it. I am a smoker and I get it. Don't smoke in an area where people that just got better and get to go home are. When you go into a hospital, lots of perfume is bad and you don't wear it. Flowers aren't allowed in ICU, and people aren't supposed to wear perfume because these things can irritate the persons lungs. Same thing goes for cig smoke. But families will troop in reeking of smoke and you can smell them on the other side of the unit. And Mercy, don't smoke before a major surgery. You may get stuck on a ventilator. You may have blood pressure issues. And if your loved one is critically ill, don't go outside and puff away and then go back and lean over your loved one. YOU WIll harm them with your stench. And yes, I'm a smoker who chooses not to smoke inside my house, once I am at the hospital, or once I'm in my scrubs. "

JWQ wrote on June 7, 2007 7:07 am:
" Ok people, we all know obesity is a big health issue in our country. But Lincoln's smoking bans and obesity have NOTHING to do with each other. Please stop mentioning obesity as such a big problem...yeah we know. But that does not make smoking and the diseases associated with it any less significant! Go find an article about obesity and talk about banning twinkies there....geez! "

nn wrote on June 7, 2007 7:40 am:
" I think Mercy is weird. "

Black and White thinking is not a healthy thing. wrote on June 7, 2007 8:45 am:
" America: the land of extremes. Hospitals can't be a place where there are places to smoke and places you can't smoke, you have to be COMPLETELY NON SMOKING. Lincoln bars and resteraunts can't set up smoking and non smoking sections...again, its ALL NON SMOKING. America can't be a place where you care about your Troops but HATE THE WAR they fight... you're either one or the other. This sort of black and white thinking is not a healthY quality, as any addictionist or psychologist will tell you. But it seems to run rampant in our society. Why is that? Accomodations can be made if people (in power) are willing to make them. Instead, we get these heavy handed "edicts" from administrators far above the station of the everyday working man and woman. They certainly have lost contact with the reality of their employees. Or they just don't care. Yes smoking is bad for you, so don't smoke. As long as its legal, you should be willing to make accomodations. "

Mike Honcho wrote on June 7, 2007 9:00 am:
" I don't know if it's intentional or not...but the comments from the smokers continue to get more and more ridiculous. One commenter referred to this as a law...that alone is enough to dash their credibility! This isn't a law! This is a matter of private landowners choosing to disallow smoking on their grounds. I know...I know, that old hobgoblin argument of 'property rights' has come back to bite you in the keister...I'll bet it's a real pain. So now comes the "paying customer" argument...which is a new one on me, because simply being a paying customer does not entitle you do do whatever you want. Here's a little test on that point...the next time you eat at a nice restaurant, defecate in the entrance on the way out...tell them, "It's okay! I'm a paying customer!" I won't argue that obesity isn't a problem in our country, it is most definitely a major health issue...but this isn't about our country's health issues, this is about a private entity taking steps to protect their employees and clients from an unnecessary health risk. While it is your right, as a smoker, to do whatever you want with your body, it is not your right to harm someone else's body with second-hand smoke...and while you may not want to believe that it is harmful, the overwhelming medical evidence says it is. And bringing the concealed weapons argument into this??? Please. "

Fast and loose with the facts folks! wrote on June 7, 2007 9:25 am:
" I'm going to believe the CDC over you any day, and they say smoking kills FAR more people than obesity. Even at the ridiculous inflated estimate they came up with a few years ago that was laughed at and almost immediately retracted, obesity still caused 70,000 fewer deaths than tobacco. They are currently using the AMA study's 112,000 figure (smoking is 435,000 - almost FOUR TIMES as many!) Unelss you use facts your arguments are worthless at best and intentional lies at worst. Here's my cite. am I going to trust the AMA and CDC or some "nurse" who claims not to have treated smoking illnesses? I suppose that's vaguely realistic if you work in the gastroenterology department and never set foot outside it, but that is irrelevant to the larger discussion where ALL reputable authorities say smoking kills far more people than obesity. "

Where were shades of gray earlier? wrote on June 7, 2007 10:02 am:
" Did you plead for accommodation of NONsmokers in bars when there was no option for us? Did you say it wasn't fair that the 80% of the population that didn't smoke had nowhere to go to play pool or watch a game on a big screen with friends or eat some wings while having a few beers in company? Somehow the pleas for compromise seem shallow now when the shoe is on the other foot. I spent 20 years of my life being forced to endure foul acrid stinking unhealthy smoke if I wanted to enjoy the amenities bars offer. You've had two years where you ahve had to suffer the unimaginable horror of walking 20 feet or so to smoke outside a few times a night. Come back to me in 18 years and talk compromise, because nobody listened to the pleas of nonsmokers for the same thing. Forgive me if I'm not too concerned about smokers "rights" now because none of them gave a fig for mine. "

Kay wrote on June 7, 2007 10:20 am:
" I don't think this will make all employees quit smoking. I think they will walk accross the street. How will it look to see Dr.'s and nurses in their scrubs standing on the street corner smoking? At least when there was a designated area only fellow smokers saw them do it. "

CS wrote on June 7, 2007 10:28 am:
" And do YOU people the message that many smokers have health insurance and pay for their cigarettes and the taxes pay for lots of other stuff that you don't want to be taxed for? And that its our choice to do so? And your opinion of smokers doesn't really mean anything? And that its none of your business how they choose to spend their time doing a legal activity? "

cost wrote on June 7, 2007 10:58 am:
" Nobody has mentioned the obvious. The "higher-ups" are doing this because health benefit insurance costs are getting higher and higher. This is one of the biggest ways to help provide some relief from the elevating costs. Especially to those of us who don't smoke. Why should we pay for higher health care insurance that the smokers cause? It is a disgusting, smelly habit that harms everyone. Smokers should not have that right!!! I am so for a COMPLETE ban of smoking because we all suffer. I am very grateful to the city for banning it in public places. I am also grateful to the CEOs of these corporations for taking the lead and getting this done. I hope and encourage other businesses to follow this lead. They have to know that it will only save them and their employees money in health care benefits. Thank you to the "higher-up" for taking into consideration the health and the financial benefits that this has on those of us who don't smoke. "

jimmy wrote on June 7, 2007 10:59 am:
" There are some really uneducated, illogical and emotional comments here, very interesting. People will smoke no matter what as long as it is a legal substance. Does the hospital own the sidewalks? I don't think so. Farther to go for a smoke break, thats all they accomplished. If people smoke in their cars, they will stink even more than if they stood outside. Net reduction on stinky people = zero. Obesity versus smoking mortality rates? I don't know, but obesity costs us all billions in health care costs due to diabetes, heart disease, blood pressure, and other realted disease, so there is total logic in banning fried foods and snacks in a health care cafeteria. If you want to set a healthy example, then do it right. "

public citizen wrote on June 7, 2007 11:04 am:
" to the patients who want to go outside to smoke: if you are well enough to want a smoke and can make it outside to do it, then you are well enough to go home. don't go back ans ask for pain medicne when you are done, or nausea medicine. ask to go home and then you can smoke as much as you want. then go back in in a few years and get your lung removed. "

public citizen wrote on June 7, 2007 11:19 am:
" i can't believe some of the comments i'm reading on here. it's mindboggling. all that is being asked here people is to not smoke on the grounds. is it too freaking hard for you guys to go an hour without smoking while visiting the hospital? have a little respect for your love one who is in the hospital, or their roommate, or the sick person down the hallway. it's about THEM, NOT YOU, you selfish smucks. if you don't like it, STAY HOME. you and your right to smoke whereever, whenever. THAT'S CRAP. there's a lot of things i can't do either, and you know what. i survice anyway. it won't kill you people. it's a small price to pay, and i think a lot more people should be applauding the decision b/c it'