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BY JoANNE YOUNG / Lincoln Journal Star

Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:06:44 pm CDT

After hours of debate over two days, Nebraska senators killed a bill Tuesday that would have prohibited discrimination in the workplace based on sexual orientation.

The debate Tuesday afternoon was limited to five or six senators, with others briefly chiming in. But Sen. Phil Erdman of Bayard sealed the fate of the bill after a couple of hours with a motion to postpone it indefinitely.

Those who favored the bill (LB475), sponsored by Omaha Sen. Ernie Chambers, argued it was just a matter of time before legislation of this type passed in the state. More and more states, including neighboring states, are passing similar legislation.

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Sen. Ernie Chambers listens to debate on the floor of the legislature Tuesday on his bill designed to prevent discrimination in the workplace based on sexual orientation. (Eric Gregory)
How they voted

Vote to indefinitely postpone LB475, a bill that would prohibit workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Voting yes: 24

Burling, Carlson, Christensen, Dierks, Engel, Erdman, Fischer, Flood, Friend, Fulton, Gay, Hansen, Harms, Heidemann, Hudkins, Janssen, Karpisek, Langemeier, Louden, Nelson, Pankonin, Pirsch, Stuthman, Wightman

Voting no: 15

Aguilar, Ashford, Avery, Chambers, Cornett, Dubas, Howard, Kopplin, Kruse, McGill, Nantkes, Preister, Raikes, Schimek, Synowiecki

Present, not voting: 5

Adams, Johnson, Lathrop, Rogert, Wallman

Excused: 5

McDonald, Mines, Pahls, Pedersen, White

Those who opposed it said Nebraska does not need another protected class of people. To meet the definition of a disadvantaged class, Erdman said, the class has to be subject to discrimination, exhibit characteristics that define it as a discrete group, and be a minority or politically powerless.

A number of businesses have already adopted nondiscrimination policies on their own, Erdman said.

No business owners appeared at the bill’s hearing to oppose it.

Chambers said the level of the debate on Tuesday afternoon was unsatisfactory, even silly. Senators were bringing up things that had nothing to do with the bill, he said.

“I’m 70 years old and I’m still hearing this kind of conversation in the Legislature?” Chambers said.

Children in high school would be having a more intellectual conversation, he said.

“We’re talking about employment, the right to have a job,” he said.

Lincoln Sen. Tony Fulton, Sen. Tom Carlson of Holdrege and Sen. John Harms of Scottsbluff said their opposition to the bill did not make them bigots.

“Senator Chambers, I just want you to understand I’m not a bigot. In my entire life I never crossed that line. I do not appreciate having my values questioned,” Harms said.

Life is a series of choices, he said, and it is not his right to be critical of the choices people make. But sexual orientation should not be protected as race, color, creed, religion, ancestry, marital status and national origin are.

Lincoln Sen. Danielle Nantkes said she had been threatened because of her support of this issue. But the bill simply gives homosexuals the right to work and be judged on their performance on the job, not on their sexual preferences. The bill does not cover marriage, parenting, insurance or medical decision-making, she said.

Several times senators brought up the issue of pedophiles.

Homosexuals and pedophiles are not the same, said Sen. Ray Aguilar of Grand Island. “If that’s the way you think, that’s bigotry,” he said.

“Bigotry is alive and well in Nebraska,” he said.

All this bill does is try to eliminate some discrimination, he said.

But Al Riskowski of the Nebraska Family Council, standing outside the chamber watching the debate, said when a law protects a behavior, it endorses a behavior. And that, he said, would confuse children about appropriate moral behavior.

Reach JoAnne Young at 473-7228 or jyoung@journalstar.com.


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J-Rod wrote on May 22, 2007 6:53 pm:
" Wow! I am glad that we live in such an open-minded state. A choice? Are they serious. Decisions like this enforces the idea that we are a bigoted state. "

David wrote on May 22, 2007 7:00 pm:
" I don't believe sexuality is a choice, but religion is totally a choice. "

Insider wrote on May 22, 2007 7:03 pm:
" That does it. I'm never coming home. I will also pay taxes elsewhere. "

Protect Gays? wrote on May 22, 2007 7:28 pm:
" They already can be hired!! What more protection do they need?.....this is nothing more than more beuracracy. The law is not needed....they can already be hired!! Don't tell business people how to run their business. "

Thanks Legislature! wrote on May 22, 2007 8:04 pm:
" We are not the left coast. "

Thank Goodness wrote on May 22, 2007 8:19 pm:
" If this was to pass you would think we were living in California. "

SAK wrote on May 22, 2007 8:55 pm:
" A person ought to be judged on job performance, not on what they are doing in their off hours. We have to stop trying to interfere in the private lives of people. My God, this IS America, isn't it? "

JJ wrote on May 22, 2007 9:14 pm:
" They CAN be hired. But the law would ban any kind of discrimination in the hiring process based on sexual orientation. This is not a feel-good clause. It is important to so many other "minority" groups to have nondiscrimination clauses--to protect people and guarantee that they will be hired (or not) based on their merits and qualifications, and not things they cannot control or certain sets of beliefs. Similarly, they cannot be fired for those traits. They can still be fired for poor job performance. Sexuality is no more a choice than ethnicity or gender. You are how you are and you are attracted to who you are attracted to. Adding sexuality into the nondiscriminatory policy makes it no more difficult to fire a gay man than it is to fire a straight woman, a black man, or a Latina woman. "

Brian wrote on May 22, 2007 9:32 pm:
" The sheer stupidity of this decision astounds me. For anyone thanking the legislature for this, you'd be singing a different tune if you could be fired for who you are. David, I completely agree with you. Religion is a choice. Sexuality is not. Senator Harms seems to be less than capable in making an informed decision from which to base his vote. Of course, the circumstances seem more attuned to the idea that he made his own choice beforehand anyway. "

Luke Peterson wrote on May 22, 2007 10:23 pm:
" This time around...my emotions are incredibly mixed up that I can't place them into words. Very much like explaining homosexuality, it's a confusing process but yet a reality in life. LB 475 was about jobs. Nothing more and nothing less. I've been fired for being gay, hence why I am so adamant about the subject. I testified for the bill in committee, I even sat in the Chamber the first time it was debated last week. I knew it was a long shot but a worth while attempt. There is good news about this and that is most Nebraskans agree this allowance of discrimination makes the state look bad. It most certianly does as several people already pointed out here. Bad news is that I have to wait till that day comes when I won't worry about being fired again because of who I am. LB 475 is not about promoting or justifying homosexuality, it is about the reality that there are people who are just that but are discriminated against simply because they are. I've been through that bigotry and countless others in this state have (albeit ANY minority). I've said it countless times before however I never see the irrelevance to my statement because it's true no matter how much a person might disagree with the assertion: 'Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals and Transgender people are your family, friends, neighbors, citizens and co-workers.' To deny us is to deny your family and friends, etc. How can you call yourself a Christian in that aspect if you don't love us like one of your own? If you can answer that question, then I will stop being so damn vocal about the GLBT minorities. "

Fern wrote on May 23, 2007 2:47 am:
" You don't even have to be gay to be affected by discrimination. Just being a person of a certain age who is single or divorced for a lengthy period of time is enough to be fired for suspected homosexuality -- it happens! The problem in Nebraska is that the entire labor force has very few workplace protection -- employers can fire anyone for any reason -- and without giving a reason. Very few employers who discriminate are ever held accountable -- maybe AG Jon Bruning can tell us why his office doesn't do civil rights enforcements. "

An Employer wrote on May 23, 2007 6:35 am:
" I doubt this law would have benefited anyone even if it had passed. Anyone can sue anybody for anything at any time with or without this law. If 'Bubba' feels he was fired for being gay and sues his former employer, I would virtually guarantee that his former employer, regardless of the status of this law, will NOT show up in court and say, "Yes, I fired Bubba because he's gay and we don't want his kind in our employ." If an employer wants to fire someone for being gay they will ALWAYS have a non-gay reason to justify that action. It may not be right, but it's life...laws cannot change that. That being the case, I have no doubt there are numerous people in Nebraska who have been fired for no other reason than the boss found out they were gay. I'm sure the Legislature realizes that too, yet they failed to pass this bill. At the same time I'm absolutely certain that no one in Nebraska has EVER killed an animal using a gun controlled over the internet, yet our Legislature felt it was their duty to protect wildlife by passing a law against that possibility. I believe those two actions, when viewed together, speak more about Nebraska's leaders than any posts here could ever express. "

Disgusted wrote on May 23, 2007 8:13 am:
" No big surprise here. We live in a state that continues to have its head in the sand. No wonder why young people are leaving the rural areas - and the exodus from the urban areas won't be far behind. Do you think we're going to attract new businesses, economic development, growth and vitality with attitudes like these from our elected officials? Fat chance. This decision only confirms that we are well on our way to becoming the flyover wasteland in the middle of the country. "

Choice wrote on May 23, 2007 8:18 am:
" Sexual orientation should not be protected. When you go in to apply for a job it shouldn't matter whether or not you are gay. Regardless of the fact that they choose this lifestyle. After all couldn't someone say they were born to be a pedophile, yet that is still illegal. By writing this into law employers would have to be conscious of something that shouldn't even matter in the hiring process. "

Victoria Lavin wrote on May 23, 2007 8:41 am:
" Well it just goes to show that some Nebraska State Senators are still narrow minded. Sexual orientation is not a behavior, it is not a choice, it is innate, it is biological, it is most likely genic but yet these right-wing nuts continue to place God in a box. They continue to say God didn't create you this way Saying an awesome, infinite and powerful God couldn't possibly create something different than their concept of what should be normal. As someone who has not had a job in her field base on her perceived sexual orientation I find these arguments the very same arguments used when protections of women, blacks, and other minorities. Saying they don't need protection. I say if the the LGBT community and its Allies are so upset about this issue and other issues that continue to be denied should start showing it more visibably. I call for a massive protest period. It is overwhelming seen by Nebraska citizens unjust to deny protection for LGBTs in obtaining and retaining a job based on the sexual orientation. When is the State of Nebraska going to come into the 21st Century? Maybe Nebraska may want to change their State Motto from the current Equality before the Law because not all are equal before the law in the state of Nebraska. I know I and others in this state are tired of the "gay exception" rule. "

Mark wrote on May 23, 2007 10:03 am:
" I propose changing Nebraska's nickname from "The Good Life" to "The Hate State" which would be more accurate. I would respect the gay haters more if they were honest and just fessed up to the fact they hated gays instead of always masking their opposition to these proposals with phoney reasoning. And to say such orientation is a choice is another lie. When did a heterosexual ever sit down and make a conscious decision to choose attraction to the opposite sex instead of the same sex. Another absurd fraud invented by the self righteous hypocrites. "

Chip wrote on May 23, 2007 11:16 am:
" Why does a boss even need to know the sexual orientation of an employee? I don't tell my boss what I do in the bedroom. Do you? "

????? wrote on May 23, 2007 11:25 am:
" Heterosexuals don't have to sit down and make a conscious decision to be that way. We are all born that way. It doesn't matter if you believe God put us here or we evolved or whatever. We were not born to be homosexual. It is a choice. If humans were born that way we would simply be asexual and there would be no need for two sexes. If you think the science backs up homosexuality as genetic, you might want to stop listening to those same scientists that say global warming doesn't exist. "

Doc Holiday wrote on May 23, 2007 11:58 am:
" Any heterosexual who claims definitively that they know what is going on in the head of a homosexual is dishonest. Any heterosexual who claims definitively that they know homosexuality is a result of nurture over nature is uneducated and seriously biased. To state that you are either heterosexual or asexual is ignorant. How do you explain all of the variations we humans face regarding birth defects, physical traits, disposition, innate character traits, etc ? ? ? Are you unwilling to consider the possiblity that perhaps a chromosome difference in homosexuals may trigger an attraction toward the same gender? With your argument we'd all be the same. Why don't we all have the same libido? Why are some people attracted to blondes as opposed to redheads? Why do some people like fuller figured individuals and some prefer trimmer people? Yes, some part of it may have to do with upbringing, but some of it just IS. "

T wrote on May 23, 2007 12:03 pm:
" "Heterosexuals don't have to sit down and make a conscious decision to be that way. " That is true for homosexuals too. Have you ever thought about why you might hate a certain food and somebody else can love it? It isn't the food that changes. Does that make one of you wrong? "

Brian A wrote on May 23, 2007 12:21 pm:
" Why do people fear change so much when it is so natural? In another 50 years people will talk about prejudice towards gay and lesbian individuals in the same way they now talk about the past treatment of African Americans. And we will collectively hold our heads in shame knowing that we were a part of a generation that could do such a thing. "

Luke Peterson wrote on May 23, 2007 12:22 pm:
" Why would I choose to be fired, picked on, beat up, and discriminated against? Again, the choice people make no sense because I don't make the choice to be hated. You think if a African American back in the golden age of racism would make the choice to be white, would they do it this person do it? Of coarse but in reality can they? NO! People please, don't tell me that I choose my orientation because it's not a choice. Trust me, I've tried to be straight and frankly, I choose to be open about my orientation. Why can't you choose to be open about your homophobia? "

Enough wrote on May 23, 2007 1:03 pm:
" I am glad they were smart enough to put off indefinatly. How stupid to include gays as a minority. Did any of you ever realize it was a gay scientist that made the claim of a gay gene? and how come you can't be tested to see if that gene exists? could be because it doesn't. I am not homophobic because I am not afraid of homos. I just don't agree with the way they choose to behave. If this makes NE a bigoted state, then so be it. move if you don't like it. or just shut up. either way, you will make the majority of us happy. "

no biggie wrote on May 23, 2007 1:06 pm:
" you know, I say "live and let live". No one ever has asked me about sexual preference and I'm pretty sure no ever will. It would'nt affect my work ethics or performance. I also would not ever ask anyone about their private lives - none of my business. "

Pauline wrote on May 23, 2007 1:09 pm:
" It has been more than a quarter of a century since all the major psychological/psychiatric associations/groups removed the mental health diagnosis from homosexuality. Homosexuality is a variant just like being left-handed is. This bill would provide protection for a group of people, contrary to what Mr. Erdman said, who are subject to discrimination, who have no political power in Nebraska, and who have characteristics which are discrete. Being a mother of a lesbian makes me frightfully aware of the above. Recently I have been lulled into thinking that maybe Nebraskans are educating themselves and beginning to realize that our GLBT daughters, sons, mothers, fathers, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins and friends do not choose who they are. After listening to our state's elected leaders debating this bill yesterday, I know there is much work to do. "

Shawn wrote on May 23, 2007 1:13 pm:
" For anyone to say that they don't tell anyone what they do "in the bedroom" is completely ridiculous (as well as those who say homosexuals should "keep it to themselves"). Do you wear a wedding ring? There you go, you just told everyone that sees your left hand that you're straight. Do you tell the person that sits next to you what you did over the weekend? Well you probably mentioned your significant other or someone you flirted with so again, you just told them your straight. See how hard it is to go about your daily routine without telling people what you do "in the bedroom"? On the other hand, have you ever been making small talk with someone and they ask if you are married/ have a boyfriend or girlfriend? Tought to avoid that one without lookin like your gay. And don't talk about the "left coast" because Nebraska is one of the few "middle states" that don't have any protections or rights for homosexuals. "

Candor wrote on May 23, 2007 1:26 pm:
" Perhaps a gay scientist can come up with a cure for redneck disease. "

Chip wrote on May 23, 2007 1:30 pm:
" I didn't say that ANYONE can't tell if you are gay or straight. I said, "Why does a BOSS even need to know the sexual orientation of an employee?" I am a straight guy who doesn't wear a wedding ring. I also do not spend any time other than "work time" with my boss. I am civil and respectful, but I do not socialize or talk about my home life with my boss. It is none of her business. "

What Next wrote on May 23, 2007 1:50 pm:
" Hey, I'm fat so can I get a law that protects me from discrimination? At least in my case, much like race, you can tell I'm fat just by looking at me. While you're at add it, also add felons, smokers, alcoholics, and drug addicts. They are all groups that are discriminated against when it comes to hiring. How far are you willing to let the government go? Next they'll be telling us you have to hire from these groups first. "

Angry at your homophobia wrote on May 23, 2007 1:52 pm:
" So I guess if I find out at work that someone is misstreating another person because of thier sexual preference, I can go ahead and pick on, make fun of and trip up the mindless gay basher all I want to and It'll be o.k. because it's not discrimination. Cool. I'm sick of you good-ol-boy rednecks pushing people around just because you can't fit your small minds around someone elses alternative lifstyle. "

Joe wrote on May 23, 2007 2:05 pm:
" I need to get out of this backwards thinking, Bush loving state. Once I get my degree in December, I am leaving forever. There is only so much ignorance, bigotry, and living in the 1950's that I can take. Homosexuality is a choice? Global warming is junk science? These are the kinds of beliefs that make you look backwards and racist. "

Marky Mark wrote on May 23, 2007 2:07 pm:
" I dont really understand this. I know we are in a hick state and constantly vote with the hick Confederate states, but it seems to me equal rights should be automatic. I know God and Jesus Christ would agree. "

obvious wrote on May 23, 2007 2:07 pm:
" it is obvious that with so many of you gay people spouting off here that you are not a minority. end of discussion "

Shawn wrote on May 23, 2007 2:16 pm:
" Wish I had your boss then. Mine asks me all the time what I did over the weekend and why I had to miss a day. No explanation sounds a little suspicious to her. "

Disappointed Citizen wrote on May 23, 2007 2:22 pm:
" It never ceases to amaze me how much hatred comes out when a group of people simply asks to be treated as equals. Also, it must feel good for gays to be seen as being on the same level as felons and drug addicts. "

Honest Bob wrote on May 23, 2007 2:27 pm:
" We wouldn't need a whole bunch of laws if people treated people with respect and dignity. "

Denys Steele wrote on May 23, 2007 2:34 pm:
" After looking at the discussions, I think everyone's left out a very valid, very important aspect to this whole discussion (forgive me if I've overlooked it). Many people have said 'Why does your boss know about what you do in the bedroom?' Quite personally, as an out lesbian my boss more than likely knows as well as the people whom I work with know that I've been dating the same person for the last two years,they not only know what but also even WHO i choose to do in the bedroom. That being said, you don't have to be LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender) to be affected by the sexual orientation protection clause. That's because of a great little thing we like to call stereotypes. What? You're too 'butch' and don't have a boyfriend/husband? Gay. and Fired. Your wrist is a little limp and you don't have a gorgeous chick at your side? Gay. and Fired. I would think that in Nebraska we could get over ourselves. I would THINK that HHS could have a civil discussion about a mother of 4 children and overlook the fact that she's a lesbian. I would think that Senators would protect their constituents. Protect Gays? said 'Don't tell business people how to run their buisness' We really shouldn't. Lets set the civil rights movement back. Only Straight Caucasians can shops owned by Straight Caucasians.Only Straight Caucasians can be protected by laws... And only Straight Caucasians are safe to live in such a bigoted state as Nebraska. 'The Good life' Ha! "

Theologian wrote on May 23, 2007 2:47 pm:
" Jesus Christ is God. "

I wrote on May 23, 2007 2:52 pm:
" Some senators actually said homosexual=pedophile? My god, that is so disappointing. I would love to know which ones said that. And who is Mr. Al Riskowski to dictate "appropriate behavior"? I'm just really surprised a bill like this would be shot down. It seems like any senators opposing it would look pretty bad to me. Certainly it changes my opinion on Phil Erdman. Homosexuality is not a choice. I don't know anyone who would willingly CHOOSE to be ridiculed and looked down upon in the manner that some of you seem to look down on others. "

Disappointed? wrote on May 23, 2007 2:56 pm:
" The "hatred," or alternative viewpoints which we are entitled to, does not come out when a group of people ask to be treated as equals. Homosexuals are already treated as equals. No where in the law does it specify they are to be discriminated against. This law would have made them a special class. They do deserve equality and everything that entails. If they want a special designation they can only expect to be treated as different. "

JMK wrote on May 23, 2007 2:58 pm:
" I am will to vote the good senators a pay raise if they manage to vote this down completely. "

Ray-Ray wrote on May 23, 2007 2:59 pm:
" Once again our own state has made sure that they have a way to make straight people feel more secure, rather than making everyone have a better place to live. Isn't that just typical of the self righteous, white, old republican in this nation? "

E Jr wrote on May 23, 2007 3:09 pm:
" I agree with Al Riskowski. This sends a confusing message to children. I am confused myself as to why it would be considered immoral to treat homosexuals the same as heterosexuals under the laws of the state. "

REALLY? wrote on May 23, 2007 3:30 pm:
" Apparently you DON'T know what God and Jesus Christ would think!!!!!! "

peb wrote on May 23, 2007 4:24 pm:
" During the McCarthey era, gay people were fired purely for being gay. Thousands of them were fired from federal jobs. Hopefully nothing like that will ever happen again but for a GLBT person, the security of knowing they can't be fired for being GLBT is good. There are all sorts of ways a GLBT person can be discriminated on the job. Someone may not like that a GLBT couple gives each other a good bye kiss as one drops off the other at work. Someone else may not like that a GLBT person has a picture of themselves and their partner hugging each other. A job may not be lost but everyone should have the right to have pictures of the one they love at work. "

Nebraskan? wrote on May 23, 2007 4:37 pm:
" Joe, I'm with you. I am not one of the born in Nebraska stay in Nebraska people like 98% of the people in this backwards state. I was born in Detroit and have lived in Florida, California and Colorado. I don't live in this state by choice and given my first chance to get out of this redneck hick, bush loving mud hole I will. I've lived here since 97 and everyday in everyway regret it. I have family circumstances keeping me here but hope to jump ship asap. This state has just as much tax if not more than California but absolutely nothing to offer such as an Ocean, attraction, scenery or even a lousy casino. Some of the bills that have been denied and some that have been approved dumbfound me in a way I can't describe. Why are lifers in Nebraska so close minded and stuck in the past refusing to catch up to the changing times. It's neccesary. "

Cheri Marti wrote on May 23, 2007 4:54 pm:
" What's curious is, I think that many politicians really do understand that sexual orientation is ~not~ a choice. It doesn't take a scientist to understand that. Additionally, I think they understand that it's offensive to make comparisons with other ~harmful~ actions such as being a pedophile (far and away most are hetero, by the way), a felon, or a drug addict. It's about who you love, have a relationship with, make a life with. I KNOW people RIGHT NOW who can't let their employers suspect they are gay, because they'll lose their jobs. And if they are fired without cause, not everybody ~can~ just fight it and even if an employer admits it, there's no protection! That's the point! What is SO distressing then, is our leaders (who we vote for - make note!) are essentially saying it's okay. For example, Erdman claims there's not discrimination against gays, but we know that hate crimes occur! Isn't that the ultimate form of discrimination? Do they honestly think there aren't other more subtle forms of bias that occur? Sen. Nantkes was threatened for even supporting this bill! It is stunning that we have to have a conversation with people about whether or not they "agree" with a persons sexual orientation. The point is, we shouldn't discriminate because of it. It shouldn't matter!!!!!! But clearly, even from the comments on this page, it does. More heartening though, is the outpouring of support. This law will pass eventually. Note who is truly "making a choice" in our legislature, then get out and Vote, people! "

Believer in Freedom of Thought wrote on May 23, 2007 5:12 pm:
" Please get the heavy influence of the pope and the local Roman Catholic bishop out of Nebraska's politics by voting against Tony Fulton in November 2008! "

Disappointed Citizen wrote on May 23, 2007 6:01 pm:
" "Homosexuals are already treated as equals." Really? What rock would someone have to live under to believe that? People that love each other in a relationship can't get married, can't share benefits, and can get fired for being gay. In comparison, straight people can get married, can share benefits, and can but do not get fired from their jobs for being straight. As for Riskowski saying that banning discimination based on orientation would endorse people being gay, the concept is outrageous. I believe children are capable of thinking this through for themselves and coming to their own decision as they get older in life. Confusing children is the job of self-righteous people who think they know what's best for everyone. "

JT wrote on May 23, 2007 6:08 pm:
" It pretty much spoiled my breakfast when I read about this is the paper today. Need an answer as to why there is a brain drain in this state? It's because our state senators use rhetoric from the 1930s. I for one am not planning on moving from Lincoln, but instead working to make it a more tolerant place. "

JMARIE wrote on May 23, 2007 7:17 pm:
" This decision by the state legislature makes me ashamed to admit that I am a Nebraskan. The only way to keep atrocious acts like this from happening is to vote. I hope that everyone who disagrees with this decision will remember it next time elections come around. In the meantime, write to your representatives and let them know exactly how you feel. It probably won't make a difference, but it doesn't hurt to try. "

NE wrote on May 23, 2007 8:19 pm:
" Good luck attracting big business to a great place...Nebraska. When a company makes a decision about where to locate it's next corporate office, or division..count Nebraska out. When a thinking, progressive company, that is not simply a blue-collar company thinks about relocating to Nebraska..you can quickly cross NE off the list...we legislate lifestlyle. We'll continue to get packing plants and blue collar labor, but cross off companies like that are progressive off the list...once their people know nebraska legislates against your lifestyle...it's over. Believe what you want..but don't legislate it. There is no reason Nebraska couldn't be the next tech trianlge (North Carolina, which is thriving), but they no company would take the risk based on what the legislature is doing...you are economically dooming Nebraska. "

Tsk Tsk, Time to sue the FDA wrote on May 23, 2007 8:47 pm:
" come on here, this is wrong, equal rights for all!! Seems that gays can't donate blood. This is not equal rights!! This is discrimination! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18827137/ "

Doug wrote on May 23, 2007 9:07 pm:
" Get with the program peole. Gays are a considered a freak of nature by the Citizen Senators who voted to kill the bill OR maybe they were just sick of the extended debate no matter the subject. It happens every year and usually instigated by Ernie selfish tactic of prolonged debate on issues he does not agree with. This vote was directly a payback vote to Ernie Chambers for his antics involving the licnese plate bill yesterday. It happens to him EVERY year adn he is just plainly to stupid and to selfish to arrogant to change. He is teh most misguided and misused talent to ever walk the ground of this state adn especially the State Legislature. With his inteligence his political career could have been fabulous. Instead we voted in term limits to gag him and this years legislature gagged him of the gay rights bill. "

Ryan wrote on May 23, 2007 10:19 pm:
" So many of the religious say that homosexuality is a choice, so it is something that can be discriminated against in the hiring of employees. Well, try that shoe on your own foot. How would you feel if someone fired you because you were christian? Is that okay? It was your choice to become a christian after all. Is that an acceptable decision for an employer to make? "

Luke Peterson wrote on May 23, 2007 11:33 pm:
" Here is a quote from a book that I have read a long time ago, maybe Nebraskans should read this and we should send this book to all 49 State Senators (assuming people in this state know how to read to begin with). "Talking back to back to bigotry is posing the question of our right to love versus their right to hate" Dr. Betty Berzon 'Setting Them Straight' "

Ex-Nebraskan wrote on May 24, 2007 12:14 am:
" For what it's worth, I'm a thirtysomething professional, a Nebraska native and UNL graduate living in another Midwestern state. I would love to return to Nebraska, but THIS attitude, which my home state just can't quite seem to get over, is why I can't and won't move back. I'm not alone. Red state, blue state, I don't care. Until Nebraskans learn to embrace, rather than fear, diversity, I and many others like me (both gay and straight) will stay away. Please open your eyes and see what you're doing to the future of the state. "

willie wrote on May 24, 2007 12:42 am:
" Amazing. Incredible. Unbelievable. And then I remembered why I left Nebraska years ago. There really is such a thing as the Bottom of the Barrel. "

My God wrote on May 24, 2007 1:21 am:
" O.K. I am an Asisn man, who came from a very conservative culture. However, what is happening here in Nebraska is just laughable. This is MEDIEVAL. As someone wrote before, I should not pay taxes here. (btw, some stupid people around here asked me whether I pay taxes or not. Many legal immigrants including myself pay all kinds of taxes - sometimes more than Americans do - without any benefits for several years.) "

willie wrote on May 24, 2007 1:59 am:
" Hopefully the Nebraska State Senators will study the blogs that are published about their decision. In showing them them that the criticism by the very citizens that elected them to office should be a loud wakeup call. "

tortis wrote on May 24, 2007 6:30 am:
" Those that feel gays and lesbians do not have rights are just plain not with it. We all have the same rights when it comes to employment. We do not need to create another class for employers to decide about. If you are gay and or lesbian, you still have the same rights as any other person for a job. That is in the constitution you do not need to have another catagory on an application. That would only create a catagory of another protected minority or majority. GET OVER IT. If you want to be part of the gay and lesbian society, then be it, but do not expect favored employment status, no one else has favored status. "

To Luke Peterson wrote on May 24, 2007 6:52 am:
" Read Romans 1. God's judgement doesn't come because of rampant homosexuality but is a clear indication that His judgement is here. It will continue to increase in intensity, as history proves, unless we repent of living our lives for ourselves and the fulfillment of our desires and agendas and live to do what He wants us to do according to His Word and will. God hasn't changed with the times, sin is still sin and those who love and practice what God has clearly in His Word condemned will reap the consequences He said would come to those who practice and promote sin. He made a way of escape through His love gift, the sacrifice of His own Son so we could be free and live for Him. To know true peace and have a clear conscience. God is also a God of right and just judgement, not like man. "

Shawn wrote on May 24, 2007 7:08 am:
" Oddly enough, i believe both religion and marital status are protected by the state if you look at EOE documentation. So it's okay for all you bigoted red necks to be protected but no one else deserves it? That explains so much about this state... "

GIguy wrote on May 24, 2007 7:34 am:
" Nebraska: the Good life! (if you're not gay, against the war, believe in mental health, have a Bachelors Degree, are a free thinker, believe in 'live and let live', aren't a member of Bushie's for Christ). ok, other than including these groups, it's a good life! "

nitemare wrote on May 24, 2007 8:03 am:
" Gays don't needf any protection. Gays don't need to BE! That's not the way God and Mother Nature intended things to be. It was "Adam and Eve", not "Adam and Steve" !!! "

DannyB wrote on May 24, 2007 8:36 am:
" Isn't Marrige and Religion a choice? Darn, I'm glad I moved out when I did. Welcome back to the 18th Century, Nebraska! Please remember to turn out the lights when you finally decide to leave the past and join the rest of us. "

I am at a loss wrote on May 24, 2007 8:47 am:
" Why does sexual preference need to be considered a preference? Does everything in society need a bill to protect their "rights". You sleep with someone; who cares. The only thing I struggle with is the movement forward for equitable rights in your relationship. But homosexuality is not a nationality..... "

Dave wrote on May 24, 2007 9:09 am:
" If you dont like it why complain about it which does nothing and just leave the state. We obviously don't want you so why do you want us so bad? "

JJ wrote on May 24, 2007 9:23 am:
" I do not think I have see an issue on these blogs that has brought out more "closed minded" opinions. If you do not support the gay agenda you are a "redneck," "hick," "bigot" etc. When people just call names you know they have no substance to their arguement. It is unfortunate for the gay population because they just seem to keep shooting themselves in the foot -- open your mind -- If someone disagrees with you it does not make them evil. "

Mark wrote on May 24, 2007 9:23 am:
" Wow. The ol' "Adam and Steve" argument. If you read the news lately you can see several cases of natural homosexuality in animals. So, yeah, mother nature obviously did intend for homosexuality. If it boils down to reproductiononly then let's keep impotent men and sterile women from marrying. As for reading Romans... read the rest of the bible. It's nonsense. Please stop using to make your moral decisions for you. "

Toby wrote on May 24, 2007 9:30 am:
" While I believe that homosexuality is not a choice, I don't think ANYBODY for any reason should be singled out for protection. All people need to be treated with dignity. If a boss or landlord is so hateful, why work for them or live on their property? Another generation away and these backwards living people will be dead and gone. Most people are not as ignorant and hateful as these comments indicate. Peace to everyone. "

Tom wrote on May 24, 2007 9:37 am:
" People in this state wonder why people from other states call them hicks, idiots, and things way worse. All they have to do is read the trash that the homophobes and down right ignorant people have to say on here. I just love it when someone quotes a passage like Romans 1 from a made up book that was probably no more than the number 11 book on the top 10 list of that year with its niche being weak willed, unintelligent people that need someone to tell them what to think and believe. Instead of spouting trash like that maybe you should actually read something that can teach you compassion, Lord knows we can’t hope for it to make you more intelligent. "

Disheartened wrote on May 24, 2007 10:12 am:
" Wouldn't it be nice if this bill wasn't needed, if people just let others be who they are w/out discriminating against them. Homosexuality is not a choice, but what if it was? Who cares! Let people love who they want. It is sad that love and hate have to be side by side. It is sad that we are having this discussion at all. "

shoni wrote on May 24, 2007 10:13 am:
" what do you expect in a country where same sex marriage is illegal? "

Greg wrote on May 24, 2007 10:15 am:
" This is the reason why Nebraska is looked upon like a backwards, red-neck, hick state. Way to go, more reason to not move back. Maybe someone bigot will think of the next great idea, come up with a Homosexual registration act. If it were so, it would come out of Nebraska. "

Jazzy MacKenzie wrote on May 24, 2007 10:24 am:
" i think that they should have passed the bill it is wrong of them not to and it is just un fair to all the bisexuals,gays lebians,and transgerned people of nebraska and i agree with senator Danielle Nantkes it should not make people think differently about other people sexual oriantion. i mean most of my friends are bisexual and either a lesbian or gay an d there is nothing wtong with it personaly i think it is courages to say that to people and is extermely smart so then they kno who there friends really are. "

Nina wrote on May 24, 2007 10:29 am:
" True, it's just a matter of time. But as usual, Nebraska is behind times. It might be humorous to see the surprise among those who have employees or coworkers who are gay, when they realize it. I think Brian A.'s prediction will come true. In Nebraska, it's hire at will, fire at will - you can be fired (or not hired) not only for being gay, but also for being overweight, dressed in low-price attire, or being deemed unattractive for a bunch of other reasons that all mean you "don't fit in." What an example to set! "

Brian wrote on May 24, 2007 10:50 am:
" Read up on Separation of Church and State. I know many of you may be surprised, but God has no place in a state government. People of this state are entitled to their own beliefs, but our law that dictates justice and freedom for all should not be influenced by religion. It's true that one group says the other is an abomination and going to hell, and then the other side returns the favor with comments about bigotry. Amusingly, neither of these arguments have anything to do with the topic that this article is about. It's about people being able to get a job and keep it without fear of being fired for being gay. If someone says being gay is wrong, that's their belief. Of course it's also the belief that can get people fired for who they are. I don't know about everyone else, but I believe the comments made here prove that gays should have at least some protection in the workplace. "

Liz wrote on May 24, 2007 10:55 am:
" A tear came to my eye at the mention of my state senators using the word pedophile in this debate I challenge any state senator or any other person who in their brain could possibly utter this word while speaking of gay individuals to come with me and spend a day. Spend a day getting to know a whole group of people who are gay. Heck, we'll throw a "Get over your prejudice" POT LUCK DINNER! We'll tell you about being discriminated against at work. We'll tell you about being discriminated against anywhere we go. Someday, these senators will be embarassed and feel guilt for not passing a law that would protect the citizens they were hired to protect, Nebraskans. Ironic a senator has to vote against helping someone obtain and keep a job just because he/she NEEDED to vote against it to keep their own. Let's do a little more education everyone. I'll bring the deviled eggs... "

Gruna wrote on May 24, 2007 11:03 am:
" Reading this makes me humiliated for my home state. How many times do experts have to say that homosexuality isn't a choice before the closed-minded people in our state will listen? "

Too idealist...so wrong?? wrote on May 24, 2007 11:20 am:
" It shouldn't matter what is a choice and what is not a choice. All that should matter is the person's merits and capability to do a job. If people would mind their own business about the choices a person makes in his/her life outside the workplace, we wouldn't need our government wasting time debating opinions when we have a broken healthcare system, a high tax burden, and crime still on the streets. And we wonder why our government never gets those thigns done.... "

J-Stu wrote on May 24, 2007 11:40 am:
" I'm sorry to all the homosexuals who feel the need to run out and be overly flamboyant about their sexuality and that gets them fired. That shouldn't happen. The point here is that legislation like this is impossible to enforce, and that even if it were to pass, it wouldn't protect you. Blacks aren't protected any more than they were 40 years ago. Someone can still be fired for being black, because when I walk into a job interview or what-have-you, they can tell I'm black. They can't tell you're a gay person unless you announce it to the world or act on it publicly. Maybe the HR in your company needs to know to hopefully protect you, but even then its confidential information. Its not like they're going to run in their and scream, "STOP HARRASING HIM! DON'T YOU KNOW HE'S GAY!" I'll agree, its nearly impossible to disagree with a gay person and not be labeled a "homo-phobe", "redneck", "hick", or what has become the most evil of words for no apparent reason "Republican". Just as its impossible to disagree with a black man and not be called a racist. Get over yourselves, people! How about the homosexuals become a little more "open-minded" to the people who disagree with the fact that you shove your sexuality in their face? They don't want to hear it regardless of whether you're gay or not. I'm all for being yourself and being who you are, but whether you're straight, gay, bisexual or WHATEVER...keep what you do on your own time in terms of sexuality to yourself, no one wants to hear it! "

Elvin wrote on May 24, 2007 11:52 am:
" "this state is backwards!" "religion is a choice!" "I'm ashamed of this state!" "Welcome to the 18th century Nebraska!" "Glad I moved out!" a minute for rebuttal: How does this particular piece of legislation make NEBRASKA backwards? If you would pay more attention to what is going on and less time complaining about where you are and how terrible your life is, because you choose to keep it that way, you'd realize this is a nationwide thing. Congress isn't passing these laws, and you've got DEMOCRATS in control of both houses! Several times since the inception of the Congress, you've had DEMOCRATS (apparently the second coming of Christ for most of you) in control, and they have never felt the need to enact legislation. 32 states other than Nebraska do not have laws that protect gays from the so-called "discrimination" they face. 41 states do not have laws that protect people with gender identity issues. How are you discriminated against? Does someone look at you and decide you look too much like Carson from that old Bravo network show and therefore you MUST be gay? Or do you walk around with your significant other, are overly affectionate with them, and then get told to knock it off? OR do you just announce to the world that you're FABULOUS? Do the math folks, Nebraska isn't the only one. In fact more than half of the states don't have your protection laws that you so obviously desperately need to feel "modern" and "welcomed". Get over yourselves, you don't need legislation, you need a little restraint! "

Jill wrote on May 24, 2007 12:16 pm:
" I love Lincoln and I love Nebraska...but this makes me very sad to hear that the state can't progress...just a little bit...toward equality. "

Liz wrote on May 24, 2007 12:19 pm:
" How would your life be different today if no one listened to Martin Luther King, Jr? I sure many "didn't want to hear it" back then either. Come on man...we only want people to understand that King's message pertains to us as well. Equality. Why is that so hard to understand? "

Ryan wrote on May 24, 2007 1:00 pm:
" I'm dissapointed in our state, but have not lost hope. "

Disgusted wrote on May 24, 2007 1:10 pm:
" Walk a mile in my shoes. So, we're supposed to keep it to ourselves. I'd love to but it doesn't work that way in the real world. I'm the subject of lots of office gossip and question about my marital status. "Is he married? Why not?" I have desperately tried to keep my personal life personal but I have not been successful. You become the subject of lots of speculation. So now, I'm supposed to avoid co-workers altogether. Can you imagine walking into work and a co-worker asks; "So how was your weekend?" "What did you do?" Since you can't tell them the truth you better tell them a lie. Then you find out your boss is a raging homophobe. S/he thinks that homosexuals are an abomonation before God and are attracted to little boys. Yeah right, I'm feeling real secure now - so blessed to be living in fair minded Nebraska! I know people here in town that hide their identity for fear of losing business or being fired.