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By MARGARET REIST / Lincoln Journal Star

Monday, Feb 26, 2007 - 09:10:39 am CST

They’ve got a $250 million bond issue under their collective belts.

They’re renovating in earnest at Lincoln Southeast High School.

And now, Lincoln Public Schools officials have an old issue filtering down from the theater fly space in the two newest high schools.

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Jane Willborn (front) and Sean Rocke, both juniors at Southeast, prepare a props list during their technical theater class. Plans for future renovation of the school's theater do not include enlarging the fly space above the stage. (William Lauer)

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Equity.

The issue: Some Southeast supporters and at least one board member believe that same space  — located above the stage at Lincoln’s two newest high schools — should be added to Southeast’s soon-to-be renovated auditorium.

“I’m arguing that it’s really expensive but we have to pony up to be equitable,” said  Lincoln Board of Education member Doug Evans, who has raised the issue twice at recent board meetings. “This seems to be a small thing but it’s not, it’s a huge thing.”

Fly space is the space above the stage, unseen by the audience, which is used primarily to “fly” sets above the stage when they’re not in use. Lighting also is stored there.

While the older high schools, have “modified” fly spaces to store lights and some equipment, they don’t have full fly spaces.

Theater buffs say that limits what students can do, particularly the sorts of sets they can use.

 Carol Svoboda, director of performing arts for Southeast’s program, said her school’s stage has a related problem: a low proscenium, or stage opening.

“It’s hard for me to do anything with a second story,” she said. “Anything that calls for an upstairs, I can do it, but I have to cheat a lot.”

Current renovation plans will raise the proscenium about 3 feet, and that will solve a lot of problems, but not all of them, said teacher Tommy Bender.

“I love tall sets an I haven’t been able to build any since I’ve been here,” he said.

Last week, three citizens appealed to the board of education to find out how much it would cost to include fly space as part of the renovations  of Southeast’s theater.

Bob Evnen, a state board of educ ation member appearing before the LPS board as a Southeast graduate and parent, said it made sense to find out how much it would cost.

“If it turns out to be a $4 million expense you won’t do it. If it’s $4,000 you will. If it’s somewhere in between, at least you’ll know what you’re talking about.”

Evnen didn’t mention the other high schools, but some other board members said if they were going to estimate the cost of adding fly space to the Southeast auditorium, they should do the same for the other three high schools undergoing renovation. The LPS staff is in the process of finding out how much it would cost to develop such estimates.

Having school buildings with equal facilities —from gymnasiums to field turf to vocational education rooms — has been a recurring issue over the years, one that came up again when the district was planning for North Star and Southwest.

It centered mostly around the   the gymnasium and swimming pools, said Evans, one of the school board members on a committee reviewing high school designs.

Some committee members, including Evans, argued that efforts to make everything equal should stop. Instead, the argument went, the district should build a neutral, joint athletic facility, a concept eventually rejected.

At the time, Van Horn said, he did a preliminary cost estimate of adding an orchestra pit and fly space to the existing high school theaters, but didn’t look at any construction issues involved.

Several years later, with renovation of the older high schools finally a reality, Evans believes that to some people, equity means fly space.

He said he worries that students interested in theater are leaving Southeast for the newer high schools.

Dennis Van Horn, LPS associate superintendent for business affairs, said there have been no plans or discussions about adding a fly space to Southeast’s auditorium, primarily because of the construction difficulties involved.

At Southeast, he said, footings under the stage would have to be fortified to hold the additional space, which would be very expensive. And it would be a particular problem at Lincoln High, because the media center sits directly below the auditorium.

Also, changing plans could be complicated because the high school renovations are only a part of the district-wide renovations being paid for with the bond issue.

The bond issue made it possible for the district to renovate the theaters in the four older high schools, something that originally wasn’t going to happen.

Current renovations at Southeast include making the stage deeper, replacing the wooden seating with apolstered seating, making it roomier and adding a balcony and lighting area behind the stage; replacing stage riggings, lighting, sound systems and curtains.

The renovations will also include a new entrance, which will carry a new name: the Jennifer Dorsey Howley theater, after a Southeast graduate killed in the Sept. 11 World Trade Center attack.

The Dorsey family raised about $300,000 toward the renovation,most of which will be used to buy computerized rigging.

Matt Dorsey, Jennifer’s brother, said the issue of fly space didn’t come up during discussions with the architects. He said the concept sounds good, but needs to do more research on it.

“It would be neat to do, but I haven’t seen the figures,” he said.

Southeast Principal Pat Hunter Pirtle said he’s excited about existing renovations planned for the new theater. He understands the equity argument, he said, but chooses to expend his energy elsewhere.

“I’m probably the biggest advocate for Southeast in this city,” he said. “It’s impossible to say everything is equitable. It’s comparable but not equitable.”

Only Lincoln High has field turf on its football field because it’s a secondary varsity field. Southeast will have computer rigging in its theaters. It’s got a great pool. The newer high schools will always have better parking and fly spaces.

The improvements to Southeast’s theater will make a dramatic difference, he said.

“Is it equitable with the two new high schools? No. But it will be a beautiful auditorium.”

Traditionally, the district and school boards have strived for equity in program opportunities, not absolutely equal buildings, Van Horn said.

“The real draw to such programs he said, are the teachers,” he said.

Back at Southeast, though, when teachers and students thought renovation, they thought fly space. The other renovations will be wonderful, Svoboda said, but having fly space would open up other opportunities.

“That was the one thing we wanted,” Svoboda said. 

When district officials said the footings weren’t strong enough and the cost would be prohibitive, the discussions ended.

Svoboda said she’s glad to see people asking questions now, when Southeast could blaze the trail for the other high schools.

“I thought we had no chance,” she said. “I’ve been talking about it from the very beginning. I’ve been fighting for it from the very beginning.”

Reach Margaret Reist at 473-7226 or mreist@journalstar.com


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Umm... wrote on February 26, 2007 7:06 am:
" ...Southeast has taller trees than Southwest. I believe the students at SW need to have the same "shade" made available to them. Please Mr. Evans, let's get that inequity resolved asap. And on the same front page there are few running against the incumbents...omg. "

CS wrote on February 26, 2007 7:21 am:
" I appreciated the finagling that had to be done in my SE NE school theater/gym/state to make shows work. We used scrims, backdrops and creative lighting, along with the help of the shop class and janitorial staff to create mountains in Brigadoon, castles in Hamlet (one act), turn of the century St. Louis and the World's Fair. It prepared me for the amount of work and compromise that was necessary to do shows at Hastings College and Dana as a theater minor, both actor and tech. Learn from it-your stage at SE is considerably better than what most Nebraska schools have and they get by just fine, and their theater majors and theater tech majors are the better for it in college where the budgets aren't always that much more. "

Julie wrote on February 26, 2007 7:44 am:
" So the taxpayers give them a quarter of a billion (that is with a B) dollars and this is the whining that we see. Life is not equitable, why should the schools be. Tommy Bender, so you can't build tall sets! Here's an idea. Lets fill all of the swiming pools with dirt, pave them over, make class rooms out of them. We would save so much money when we don't have to heat, filter, and chemically treat the water, not to mention paying a coach, (for a sport that the University does not even have) that we could then afford this stupid fly space. This article takes the cake!!!!!!!!! "

GBM wrote on February 26, 2007 7:49 am:
" How many students are affected and is there a chance to work with the community in a partnership? Life long education and drama might coexist to take advantage of same facilities. It would be nice to read of more progressive joint ventures that benefit a broader scope of both students at all levels and graduates. "

Nina Rohlfs wrote on February 26, 2007 8:30 am:
" Hey, don't stop there - how about the band rooms - some have more room and better acoustics than others. Science labs? Athletic training facilities? Swimming pools? You can never get them all exactly alike, but you can appreciate the character of each building, and make the most of your high school years, to your great benefit. It's called blooming where you're planted. "

Locke wrote on February 26, 2007 8:51 am:
" I thought Lincoln had open enrollment for high schools. If this is the case, why does everything need to be equal? If a school doesn't have what you want, then choose a different school. My son chose a high school that was outside of his "area" because it focused more on academics than his "area" high school and the scheduling was more convenient for his learning style. If you want to work in a better theatre, perhaps you should move to a different high school. "

Roger wrote on February 26, 2007 9:06 am:
" HO, HO, HO merry Christmas, its time to get this type of mentallity out of the picture. I am considering running for the school board, but would probably be lambasted with inuendo after inuendo about how important this and that are. Budgets are there for a reason and as citizens we need to follow them even when pressures from exterior sources want different outcomes "

motorhead wrote on February 26, 2007 9:08 am:
" How about making auto tech classes avaliable at all highschools. "

John wrote on February 26, 2007 9:19 am:
" Fly space IS a big deal in today's techno world especially when the parents are wanting their children to go to a school where there is fly space even tho it is out of their district. So, we can either have all of our schools equitable OR we can make our schools magnet schools - all theatre people should go to North Star and Southwest, etc. And, by the way, LPS does force equity. Some older middle schools had some science equipment that was not present in the newer middle schools. Guess what, LPS made them stop using it because the newer middle schools didn't have it. So, add the fly space or get rid of it at the newer schools. That's what LPS did for the science labs. "

Equity what? wrote on February 26, 2007 9:26 am:
" How can it be equity everywhere. Life is not fair. Now, Irving got big band or music room but not the other school. Irving Middle school got auditorium but not the other middle school. Irving got bigger tree but not the other school. The bond is for improving the school to accomodate more students and improving the current condition but not to make all the schools luxury. I think all school shool have indoor pool instead of only a few. The floor in school should be heated.... if we want to talk about equity. Give me a break! "

Jackson wrote on February 26, 2007 9:45 am:
" Are you kidding me? This is why my property taxes are so high here? Because they a drama director wants to build bigger sets for plays? LPS really needs to trim the fat here. I can't believe that they are coming from the angle that it is equitable. Is it equitable that those Southeast kids live on Sheridan while the North Star kids live, well, around North Star? "

Michael wrote on February 26, 2007 10:22 am:
" Good grief. Cut theatre all together. I want a refund on my taxes. It is NEVER enough for some Bozo at LPS. Hey let's get every student a laptop so they can surf MySpace all day. This is just LPS trying to blow our hard earned money AGAIN on stupid non-essential items. I, for one, am sick of it. "

John wrote on February 26, 2007 10:28 am:
" North Star HAS fly space for its theatre department and Southeast, Northeast (which are under construction and this is when it should be added) do not. If you are worried about your taxes being so high, you should have trimmied the fly spaces at Southwest and North Star. "

ac wrote on February 26, 2007 10:36 am:
" Where I live, teachers and classes are being cut to trim the budget! And you guys want bigger stage areas! Get real. Where does it all end! There are small schools in rural areas that don't have computers, or enough computers to keep up with technology. Maybe city schools are trying to do too much. "

brian in lincoln wrote on February 26, 2007 10:46 am:
" So, just for fun, how many students does this actually affect? I would imagine it is a VERY small number. If this cant be considered wasteful, then what can it be calle? Look at UNL even, w/out money from Johnny Carson, the theater would NEVER get improvements, as it is VERY LOW priority to the education experience. Math, Science, English, History etc...that is where the money should be spent, not on the fluff. Give me a break "

omnione wrote on February 26, 2007 11:08 am:
" All of these schools are under LPS's umbrella, so it is logical for all of its schools to not discriminate on the basis of a student's home and socioeconomic status. Though I'm not sure that Southeast's theater department is that disadvantage (funny, they used to be "the" school in Lincoln before the new schools opened), but some of you are exaggerating and distorting the point about equity. Some people here twist the concept to beleive that this is about overspending on frills. Some exaggerate the concept by saying that all of the trees have to be the same size (c'mon now!) The concept of equity in schools is to provide every student with adequate resources to learn and suceed from the school. Notice I said "adequate" where I'm not implying that every school has exactly the same materials, but enough where there aren't huge disparities between schools in the same district. When a district underserves a school because it's labeled as a "inner-city" school, that's unfair for the children who live there. Yes, I realize that life is unfair and not every school is equal. Still, the point is that all of these schools are all goverened by the same LPS entity and they should strive for fairness instead of infairness. Lastly, I just wanted to note that I don't think there are huge disparities between Lincoln high schools. I just wanted wanted to comment on the many of the overblown criticisms about the concept of education equity within the same district. "

big D wrote on February 26, 2007 11:12 am:
" I thought schools were for EDUCATION. Explain how fly space or even theater in general prepares a young person for the important things in life. We need to stop giving the school board a blank check, backed by our tax dollars, to finance such nonsense. Concentrate on the basics: readin' writin' and 'rithmetic!!! "

Roger wrote on February 26, 2007 11:51 am:
" This is exactly why I voted against that bond and will vote against every other LPS bond in the future. They made it clear that building "modern" theaters was going to be a big part of that bond. This theater crap needs to be funded by private donors, not my property taxes! "

Brian Howley wrote on February 26, 2007 12:12 pm:
" As Jennifer's husband and Pat Pirtle's biggest fan, I couldn't agree more with him about expanding energy elsewhere. I would think the powers to be will come up with the proper solution and I look forward to the day the Performing Arts Center is dedicated in Jennifer's honor. "

Rachael wrote on February 26, 2007 1:15 pm:
" The baseball facilities and other departments at Lincoln High have suffered from lack of "equity". Maybe there should be equity in spreading out "problem kids" and "challenged students"? It is too bad the other article identifies a need for candidates for the board, but who really would want to take a position on a board when there is so much disparity and a desperate community? "

SDN wrote on February 26, 2007 1:24 pm:
" Luxury schools! Now that is a hot concept! We all want children to win at the Academy Awards and be recognized by the Nobel Foundation. Build magnet sites and let the core curriculum at schools just be the basics...enough to survive, dumb things down to average for the masses but let the motivated earn their way into more demanding programs. All systems are not equal and nither should all schools have the same menu selections...it is not prctical or a conservative use of revenue. "

disgusted wrote on February 26, 2007 1:38 pm:
" Lincoln cant bus kids and yet they are worried about stupid stage equipment! This is sick and wrong. "

P wrote on February 26, 2007 1:49 pm:
" So, we have one article posing the question as to why people don't run for the school board set against another article with a looooonnng term board member contemplating his fly space (no pun intended)--and we wonder why people aren't trying to get on the school board? Mark Twain's description of Congress applies directly to our current school board: a "...grand, old, benevalent society for the helpless." People run for offices where they feel they can make a difference. If you want to understand why people don't run for the school board, start watching the televised meetings. They mean well. And according to one of them quoted in the paper, they believe the lack of opposition is a vote of confidence. But I don't think so. Watching them go round and round on minor issues while issues like school security and safety wilt on the sidelines is appalling. In addition, you'd have to be dumb as rock not to detect the underlying hostility among some members of the board. What's needed on the school board are term limits. If Lincoln voters had the chance to vote them all out at once, I think they would clean house. "

Mona wrote on February 26, 2007 2:02 pm:
" The public should admire and respect the personal and private efforts of the family. for "the Jennifer Dorsey Howley theater, after a Southeast graduate killed in the Sept. 11 World Trade Center attack. The Dorsey family raised about $300,000 toward the renovation,most of which will be used to buy computerized rigging" It is profoundly sad they haven't better professional support and both school and architect look less than competent. Still, the family moves forward with generosity and kindness. "

taxey wrote on February 26, 2007 2:47 pm:
" I wish on our annual taxes, each property owner could specify where the taxes go for the schools. If I'm forced to pay this high tax, I want a say where my money goes. A simple list of areas, programs, etc. I'll tell you this, not a dime of my money would goto theatre. So tired of "equity" My house isnt as large as my neighbors house, maybe a bond issue can help add an addition! "

Bryce wrote on February 26, 2007 4:25 pm:
" Every now and then a community should ask "What is the mission of its education system"? Have new feelings developed that change attitudes of who, what, when and where programs are offered and how they are delivered. Can technology or consolidation within the district yield a better system? Are there too many programs or can they be reorganized so duplication is not excessive? Do extra curricular programs need to be financed separate from core academic education? Are special need students a better fit under a local health and human services domaine? "

Evan the Ernie wrote on February 26, 2007 4:31 pm:
" If theater is so important, the LPS would have requires more theater class from the students to fulfill graduation requirements. No budgets for after school programs and bus for students but got money for adding theater space? What's wrong with this picture? If he does not know what is important and what is not, it is time for a change. May be we should have Ernie Chamber Junior or third to be in the board! "

A.A wrote on February 26, 2007 5:12 pm:
" The question here seems to be "Who wants to pay taxes for education dealing with the arts?". The answer seems to be “No One”. Had this been a science wing, or possibly a new computer lab at the same cost, very few people would be quite as vehement about it. After all, learning chemistry to pass a standardized test is better than being able to appreciate the arts, right? A computer lab will obviously benefit the lives and cultural education of the students better than an opportunity to actually experience live theatre, correct? Let them perform with tap-lights and a card-board box, so long as your taxes stay down. I’m not entirely sure why they thought that a plea in the paper would benefit, when their problem is one that even a good deal of theatre goers would not sympathize with. However, what I can say is this; if you choose to be irate about this possibility of how to spend funding, don’t ask who is responsible for the lack of art, free thinking or creativity in society for years to come. Don’t complain about how the American school system is failing. And certainly don’t complain about the youth of today. By belittling the arts and trivializing them ,you yourself sign the death warrant of individuality. Enjoy "

BB wrote on February 26, 2007 5:54 pm:
" Which is more imoprtant? setting aside personel preference, which is more important???? Core education subjects,reading, math, etc, or theatre, band, and chorus? The answer may be painful to you, but the answer is clear. Shorting the arts will not put an end to creative thinking, just channel the creativity towards a more useful topic. Science for example. The artsy crowd cannot honestly argue that this is money well spent. Maybe if the school system had EXTRA money, but not now. "

stop wrote on February 26, 2007 7:03 pm:
" Well somebody's had got to tell the cry baby students to grow up just not enough money for them to all have the best of everything around do they really need any stage is a stage in a school really worth the money it cost us tax payers maybe the parents of the students wanting everything can just get the funds for it from their own checking account really people these kids need to grow up and learn cant have everything and we wonder why the nations debt is climbing "

Jenna wrote on February 26, 2007 8:49 pm:
" For those of you who would like to know just how many kids the space of the fly actually affects, in the last year alone both main stage shows had casts of close to sixty people and crews of around 15 to 20. But those that are interested in drama are not the only ones that are affected by the quality of the stage. There are well over a hundred students that are in the vocal music department that uses the stage for their performances and another hundred more that are in instrumental music. Let's not even begin to count the number of kids that audition for the talent shows. When did it become a matter of good enough. When did our community stop striving for the best and literally only what is good enough. This is EDUCATION. Clearly you have never been around a theater but for those of us who have here are a few of the things that we learn. The students who work on anyone of the crews learn what it is like to work hard, complete a huge task, and never need to be applauded for it. I learned how to be a leader and how to work as a team player. I learned respect and found the most welcoming group of people that I have ever met. I don't remember hardly any of the trigonometry that I learned in Calculus, I don't remember the table of elements, and I can't format a bibliography with out going to a website for help. But the lessons and knowledge that I gained from the theater I will carry with me for the rest of my life. The Departed, the film that just won the Academy Award for best picture employs a cast and crew of over 400 people. Being just one of thousands of movies made in this last year alone, you try and tell me that this isn't a possible future for the students. For the 400 plus people that will be employed by the next Oscar winning movie this is education. "

Misled wrote on February 27, 2007 12:00 am:
" Boy was I in for a shock when I started to read this article. I saw that it was about equity in LPS schools and I (foolishly)thought it was going to really discuss equity issues at LPS! First of all lets remember that equity and equal are not the same. Equity is giving all students an opportunity to learn to their highest potential. Equal means that all students get exactly the same thing. So with that stated lets take a look at the real equity issues of LPS and it has to do with a lot more than a theatre stage at Southeast. Does every LPS high school student have equal playing time on a varisty athletic team...get the same grade on classroom assignments, tests, or on report cards...wear clothes purchased at South Pointe Mall...the same assistance with homework assignments...a class in how to score high on the ACT...a full ride scholarship to a Big VII university for basketball, football, volleyball, baseball, etc...the chance to play a professional sport, star in a hit TV show or on broadway, or tour with rock band...I could go on and on and on. The answer is of course not. Why? Because no one gets equal treatment as everyone else. Yes, we need equity in our schools and LPS does it better than many other cities across the country. We are very lucky. We don't have Omha's equity problems in our high schools to the extent that OPS does. Our school board had the foresite to allow students in Lincoln to pick the high schools they attend. Would fly space be nice? Yes. Does it mean that the students at Southeast aren't getting an equitable education? No. Real equity issues have to do with being sure that every student--rich or poor, from every ethnic group, male and female--is provided with an education that will help them achieve to the best of their ability. When LPS can do that then they can worry about such things as fly space in a school in one of the most affluent areas of Lincoln. "

Irate wrote on February 27, 2007 11:56 am:
" I have no problem with theater and the "arts" in schools, but when LPS takes the major portion of my property taxes dollars which keeps going up and up, this makes no sense. FIND PRIVATE FUNDING FOR YOUR PLAY-TIME! I don't see how even the most liberal "artsy" person can defend this with a straight face. "

Jenn wrote on March 2, 2007 9:32 am:
" I do hope that the school boards will continue to focus on core skills of math, science, English, and social studies. While the arts are important, we need to work harder as a community to build future inventors. Intellectual property is our major export. Spending millions on fancier extra's avoids the problems LPS has with raising math and science literacy. "