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BY CARA PESEK / Lincoln Journal Star

Thursday, Jan 18, 2007 - 01:09:27 pm CST

Some might have stayed home because the temperatures were low and snow had started to fall.

Some might have had other plans on a Saturday night. Some might have decided not to make the drive from Omaha to Lincoln.

But not one person backed out because of a sick child or baby sitter cancellation.

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Aaron Alai, left, and Sandi Karstens socialize during a No Kidding gathering at Doc's Place Saturday night. (William Lauer)

Because the members of No Kidding, who spent last Saturday playing pool, chatting, eating and drinking at Doc’s Place in the Haymarket, don’t have children.

And they don’t plan to.

Some are unable to have children. Others have jobs that require long hours or lots of time away from home. Some were in their 30s or 40s when they married and felt it was too late to begin a family.

And some just plain don’t want kids.

But first, before even beginning to discuss their reasons for being child-free, No Kidding members stress one key point:

“We are not child haters,” said Sara Church of Omaha, who belongs to the Lincoln-Omaha chapter of the group.

Church said for her the choice to not have children was a matter of timing. She was 32 when she married her husband, Patrick. The couple didn’t want to have children right away, nor did they want to be first-time parents as they approached middle age.

“For me, it just wasn’t in the cards,” she said.

But the Churches found their decision to be socially limiting. Many of their friends have children, which has made planning excursions with them more difficult.

And when they were able to get together with their friends with children, they found they had less in common than they once did.

Hence, No Kidding. 

The group began in Vancouver, Canada, in 1984, founded by a man named Jerry Steinberg. 

The history of the Lincoln-Omaha group goes like this:

In 2004, a couple named Julie and Paul Jonsson moved to Omaha from San Diego. They had belonged to a No Kidding group there and missed it. So they organized one in Omaha.

A story ran in the Omaha paper. Church read it. So did a lot of other child-free Omahans.

The group grew. Couples from Lincoln started driving to Omaha for the weekly events — things like brunches, happy hours, dinners, the occasional concert.

The Jonssons moved away and others stepped in to take over the organizational duties.

And this year, the group’s 40 or so members decided it wasn’t fair that the Lincoln people had to do all the driving. They began having some events in Lincoln, too.

Sherrie Bacon and her husband were among those who always made the drive.

Members of No Kidding are careful to stress that the group isn’t a support group for people who can’t have children, or a dating service, or anything other than a social club.

But Bacon said the group does feel like a safe haven from the judgment she sometimes detects when she mentions she doesn’t plan on having children.

“Lincoln is a very child-oriented town,” she said.

As Aaron Alai sees it, most of the United States is child-oriented.

Alai, a 22-year-old fisheries and wildlife major at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, said he’s already sure he doesn’t want to have children.

As someone who studies the environment, he worries about overpopulation and believes having a child would further stress the planet’s resources.

Plus he just doesn’t really have the desire.

But when Alai, 22, explains that to girlfriends, friends, pretty much anyone, they give him the same response.

“They think you’ll come to your senses,” he said.

He doesn’t think so.

Alai went to his first No Kidding event, coffee at Starbucks, earlier this month.

And there and at Doc’s on Saturday night, no one told him he’d come to his senses. 

Instead, conversations touched on work and music and pets, and the Cole Haan/Nike Air hybrid shoes that Oprah has been wearing recently that 40-year-old Kim Babics of Omaha had admired.

Not once did potty-training or Little League or related topics come up.

“You meet nice people but you don’t have much in common if you don’t have kids,” Babics said.

The members of No Kidding all have at least one thing in common.

And many members have found other shared interests, too, she said.

“Everybody’s so open,” Babics said. “We enjoy each other’s company.”

Reach Cara Pesek at 473-7361 or cpesek@journalstar.com.


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Sara Church wrote on January 18, 2007 7:49 am:
" Anyone interested in further information on the Lincoln/Omaha NOKIDDING! chapter or our next event please visit us at: http://members.cox.net/nokidding/no_kidding_main.shtml Events can be viewed under the calendar of events. For further information or to RSVP please contact: omaha@nokidding.net. "

open minded mom wrote on January 18, 2007 10:54 am:
" I think this group is a terrific idea. I am a mother, and very glad of it, but I think its unfortunate that people who don't desire to have children may be seen in a negative manner. I have a wonderful sister-in-law who has no desire for children because of career goals and traveling. Having children isn't for everyone, just like going to college isn't for everyone. It's a choice, and there are probably a few too many people out there who didn't want children, who had them anyhow, and that's far from ideal. Best wishes to NOKIDDING! members. "

boring wrote on January 18, 2007 1:52 pm:
" I can't imagine my life without my children. "

Cool wrote on January 18, 2007 2:24 pm:
" idea for a group. "

Eric wrote on January 18, 2007 2:39 pm:
" Well, they can stereotype parents as just being a bunch of babbling babytalkers who only talk about baby poop and gradeschool, if that's how they see parents. Some will then continue to stereotype them as snotty yuppies who can only focus on themselves and don't mind growing old with absolutely no one around them. Have your social time while you're young I guess, because you'll all be by your very lonesome selves once you get old and the career has gone away with mortality knocking at the door! "

Matt Poulsen wrote on January 18, 2007 4:32 pm:
" If you would read the article you would realize they are not at all suggesting there is something wrong with having children. For god sakes why does everyone have to get so defensive when someone does something a little different than you?! I am a parent, but see nothing at all wrong with this, especially in Lincoln. Lincoln has nothing for those who aren't parents. In Lincoln you are either a 21 year old college kid or you are a married couple with 2 kids. There is very little offered to those in between. Everybody goes down a different path in life. Instead of freaking out and getting upset because someone chooses not to have kids just read the article and realize that's a choice you wouldn't make. "

me wrote on January 18, 2007 5:55 pm:
" Eric, I have always been disturbed by people who have children to keep from being lonely in their old age. That is not your child's responsibility, and if you make them think it is, well I feel sorry for your children. I am proud of the good parents I know who devote their lives to their children and expect nothing in return. But I see quite a few people having children just because they think they should. Congratulations to anyone who can say they have no desire to have children. Congratulations to anyone who knows they cannot devote the time they need to be a good parent. I think these decisions are intelligent and well thought out. I think the group is an excellent idea. "

Sarah wrote on January 18, 2007 8:05 pm:
" Just because someone makes the decision to not have children of their own, doesn't mean they are lonely. I am someone in my early 20's as well. I constantly hear "You'll change your mind" and junk like that. No, I won't. I love little kids. It's just not for me. I like having money, too. "

betty gene wrote on January 18, 2007 11:46 pm:
" Having kids is no guarantee that you will have someone to take care of you in old age. Visit Lancaster Manor sometime. There are a lot of very lonely elderly people whose children and grandchildren do not visit. "

thenestisempty wrote on January 19, 2007 11:23 am:
" I think this is a great idea, now maybe we can get together a group of us that had kids, but none of them live at home anymore. I completely agree with Matt, in Lincoln you are either a student or a parent, and there isn't much in between. I would love to meet some people who have are catching their "second wind" in life, and have more to talk about than planning for retirement! "

Future joe bauers wrote on January 19, 2007 11:32 am:
" Too bad the smart people are the ones limiting their reproduction. Now it's off to Starbucks for a latte for me. "

Cool wrote on January 19, 2007 6:02 pm:
" This is neat. I noticed on their website that you can't be a parent at all to join. My husband has an 8 year old son, we hardly ever see him but would love to be a part of this group! It is very hard for my husband and I to hang around our old friends. If they don't have kids, they're trying. If they have kids, that's all they talk about, if they can even go out for a little bit. It is our choice not to have kids, and I am glad that there are people below that respect that fact. "

jads wrote on January 20, 2007 7:42 pm:
" The attitudes people have toward little ones need to be done ever so carefully. If you lose the life, you lose the love. If you lose the love, you lose the life. "