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Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:19:45 am CDT

I am writing in regard to the article front and center in the April 21 Lincoln Journal Star about the new concealed carry bill. I think it is totally inappropriate for Lincoln to restrict its citizens from defending themselves should the need arise. If enacted, it would be just one more feel-good gun law backed by emotion rather than facts.

There are currently 35 states with “shall issue” permits. Not in one of those states have we seen so-called Wild West-like shootouts in the news. This simply does not happen.

I am amazed that so many police officers in Lincoln support the city ban. Only a fool would want fewer good guys on the streets with guns! Bad guys break the law, plain and simple. Restricting carry in Lincoln will not stop them. You would think the police would know that.

My hope is that Lincoln wakes up and follows the rest of the state in allowing law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons.

David R. Smith, Lincoln

Gun law protects

I am getting tired of hearing more and more hysteria surrounding the new concealed carry gun law. People are afraid this will lead to indiscriminate shooting by anyone, anywhere, at any time. And this newspaper is doing all it can to perpetuate this ridiculous idea.

Let’s look at some facts. Texas has celebrated 10 years of freedom to carry a concealed weapon. Since then, handgun murders have dropped 18 percent. In 2000, the national Center for Policy Analysis issued a report that indicated Texans with concealed carry permits are far less likely to commit a serous crime than the average citizen. In fact, they are 5.7 times less likely to be arrested for a violent offense, are 14 times less likely to be arrested for a nonviolent offense, and are 1.4 times less likely to be arrested for murder.

And now let’s look at the other side of the coin.

In Great Britain, handguns were banned in 1997. Since then, serious violent crime is up 88 percent, armed robberies are up 101 percent, rapes are up 105 percent, according to the NRA publication “America’s 1st Freedom,” April 2006. Firearms murder was up 65 percent in the first five years following the ban. Handgun crime is now at its highest since 1993.

Australia enacted a strict gun ban in 1996. In the first year following the ban, attempted murder was up 20.1 percent; kidnapping/abduction was up 17.8 percent; armed robbery was up 19.8 percent and continued rising to 59 percent over the next 8 years.

And in our own Washington, D.C., which boasts the strictest gun control laws in our nation, the murder rate tripled and the homicide rate rose 200 percent in the 15 years following its handgun ban in 1976. The national homicide rate during the same period rose 12 percent.

We, as citizens, have the right to protect ourselves, to not be a victim and to not fear for our safety. I, for one, am celebrating this great new law!

Beth Philson, Elmwood

Rude police

Last Friday night, my band, The Goddamn Rights, played the StarCity Scenefest at Duffy’s, which was great.

When we got to the club, however, we pulled around back to unload our gear in the alley, so as not to block the main road out front. No sooner had we stopped the van (and pulled behind another van that was already parked in the alley), this bicycle cop starts yelling at us, “Whose van is this (the one in front of us)?” “Get it outta here — and get yers outta here.”

And I’m like, “Sir, can’t we just unload and then move the van?” “We don’t know whose van this other one is — we just got here — you just saw us pull up.” He says, “Noooo! You have to pull around front and unload. Get it outta here now!” To which I reply, “Sir, if you want me to have respect for you, you have to have respect for me — don’t be a jerk.” “Shut the (expletive) up!” he says.

Can you believe that? An officer of the law, sworn to protect and serve, told me to Shut the (Expletive) Up. I thought they waited until they were giving you a Rodney King-style beatdown to say that kind of stuff.

So, of course I said what would have come naturally to most anyone. “(Expletive) you!” Then, we all got in the van, parked as obnoxiously as we could in the middle of O Street, and unloaded our gear as slowly as possible — hey, that’s what the Boys In Blue said to do!

Turns out the other van belonged to another band also performing at Duffy’s that night, and had been blocking the alley for about 20 minutes. But that does not give Johnny Law the right to be rude, belligerent and obnoxious just because he has a badge, and probably doesn’t like “those dirty rock and rollers.”

I just want it to be known that I’m a law-abiding, tax-paying citizen. And this is the type of behavior my taxes are paying for?

Brad “Tex” Allison, Lincoln

Election not a game

Let’s be smart and not sympathetic. Gov. Dave Heineman has a proven track record for advancing Nebraska forward. Dr. Tom Osborne has football records and some rings. It is not a game!

Thomas G. Maul, Lincoln

Vote for Bob Swanson

I have known Bob Swanson for more than 10 years. He has the enthusiasm, intelligence and energy to be a superb Nebraska senator. He is exactly the right person at the right time for this job and is the type of leader Nebraskans were looking for when they voted in term limits.

Bob will provide a much needed fresh perspective to his district — working intelligently to strengthen the education for our children, easing the tax burden on families and small business and passing legislation which provides incentives for talented young people to remain in Nebraska.

Bob provides voters a clear choice over the liberal candidates running for the district. His pro-family, strong “Reaganite” economic views and staunch support of teachers and strengthening our educational system are what District 28 desperately needs.

Dominic Pynes, Lincoln

Vote for Mark Munger

Mark Munger stands head and shoulders above the field of District 28 legislative candidates. An outstanding Lincoln firefighter for 30 years, Mark Munger built a successful small business, G&M Window Service, during those same years, investing his own money and creating jobs.

He wants to serve in the Legislature to promote small business as the economic lifeblood of strong communities and good neighborhoods. Likewise, he is a longtime supporter of I-300, which protects the family farmers and ranchers whose trade drives small business in small towns across the state.

Mark Munger is a smart, fearless, big-hearted man who will stand tall in the Legislature for working families, good schools and healthy main streets.

Sally Herrin, Lincoln

Ricketts is cowardly

I see Pete Ricketts talking on his TV ads about the need to cut government spending, but he never explains what spending he wants to cut. I checked his Web site, and he doesn’t explain it there either.

Anyone can see what is going on here. Ricketts knows that spending cuts will get some people angry, and he is too cowardly to face that. If he’s elected, I’m sure he will stay just as cowardly as he is now.

Douglas Sczygelski, Lincoln

Eliminate graffiti

I am a concerned citizen living in the Clinton neighborhood just south of Holdrege Street. I have noticed a precipitous rise in bad graffiti on business buildings and homes on my street.

This graffiti not only looks terrible, it also makes the neighborhood look trashy. I challenge those who are doing it to come up with less annoying ways to express yourselves.

I also challenge the Lincoln police to step up the enforcement of the area that is directly adjacent to the precinct station at 27th and Holdrege. This graffiti is right under your noses … and has been for the three years I have lived here.

Fellow citizens — let’s all work together to eliminate graffiti by taking note of your neighborhood as you walk, drive and bike through it. Are there ways you can prevent theses marauders from striking the buildings around you? They are endangering the investments we make in our homes and neighborhoods!

Peter Scherr, Lincoln


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John wrote on May 1, 2006 7:27 am:
" "Only a fool would want fewer good guys on the streets with guns!" How can people like this prove to me that they are any better with a gun than they are with an automobile? A permit won't make them any more of a "Good Guy" than a drivers license makes you a good driver- and I know how folks in Lincoln drive... "

Jackson wrote on May 1, 2006 9:00 am:
" Hmmm, can't imagine why the Lincoln Police wouldn't want citizens carrying concealed weapons everywhere they went? The answer seems simple enough to me and smacks of common sense, which is something the concealed gun folks don't seem to have. Man, I hate to engage in namecalling, but seriously, people who are afraid to live in Lincoln and believe they need to carry a gun to protect themselves while shopping out at Southpointe Mall are either paranoids, thugs or complete rednecks. And yes, I do believe that you might "show off" your weapon in a parking lot if we were jockeying for the same parking space. Honestly, normal folks are not scared of a overwhelming criminal element that is out to get their family while they eat at the Olive Garden, but we should be really concerned about the concealed gun toting bubba in the parking lot who believes that everybody is out to steal his cigarrettes. I believe in protecting my home, but this concealed gun stuff appeals to the lowest common denominator of individual. Do you really want to sit in a movie theater, go to Granite City, go to church, shop at Toys R' Us for your kids, and go to the Zoo or Sunken Gardens with a bunch of folks who are walking around with hidden guns? Although I doubt we are talking about the middle class wanting guns so maybe I am safe from your nonsense. As long as I stay away from your trailer, the pawn shops, Walmart on a Saturday afternoon and street corners in the middle of the night I probably won't come into contact with the concealed carry folks. "

Bill in Lincoln... wrote on May 1, 2006 9:51 am:
" In response to Thomas Mauls remarks about the elections "not being a game." There are actually 2 good candidates and it has nothing to do with football and rings, although that does raise his "familiarity," with the voters. Tom is a Dr., who is an educated man, and has been serving in Washington for some years now. He is truly a good man for the job as is Governor Heineman. One can win...one won't. It has nothing to do with Rings and records. It has everything to do with the impression he left with everyone in contact with him during his coaching career. He is a good man, and as a registered Democrat.....I'm hoping he'll win. I could use a dose of him about now!!! "

GMP wrote on May 1, 2006 11:51 am:
" I have noticed the graffiti in Havelock also, and would like to catch the little jerks doing it!! I think, sitting waiting for the police, with the person who just caught them might change their attitude. They are cowards who paint in the night, making themselves feel like men (or women) when they see their handiwork. But, if they were real adults, they would find a way to make their community a better place, not defile the neighborhood with their petty little symbols of "power". Come out in the daytime and improve your area. No one is impressed with your "marking your territory" like dogs. "

Lindsay wrote on May 1, 2006 12:06 pm:
" Tex - I got a kick out of your letter. Keep on fightin' the man bro! "

Dan wrote on May 1, 2006 12:23 pm:
" It sure looks like out Mayor is more concerned about keeping people from defending themselves then actually protecting the people of Lincoln. Banning the CCW law city wide, but convicted sexual predators that are likely of re offend are welcome in our city just don’t live 1000 ft of a school, that equivalent to less then10 houses away from a school. If you have someone like this that has moved in next door. You can not defend your children or yourself against them. If the Mayor and Police Chief are even remotely serious about protecting the people of Lincoln then they would be cleaning up the city of these poor excuses of DNA by banning them from the city entirely just like the guns she wants to ban. "

Patt Kudron & family wrote on May 1, 2006 12:38 pm:
" I read with interest the letter from Brad Allison about rude police. You state you are a law-abiding, tax-paying citizen. Your attitude and behavior speak loudly - your behavior to the officer was childish at best. Just because he used an expletive to you, you responded in kind, just like a child. Why didn't you be a grown-up, move the van and then report the incident? There are two sides to every story and all we have is yours? Hmmmmm "

Dan wrote on May 1, 2006 12:50 pm:
" Jackson I totally agree with you on the fact that both malls, shopping centers, movie theaters I don’t feel threatened in then. They are relatively safe and secure areas. But the areas directly on all 4 sides of the downtown I’m sure the pizza delivery person can tell you a story or two, how about the furnace repairman that gets called out at 1:00AM for a repair, you think that he feels just as comfortable as he would in “The Ridge” or “Iron Gate” subdivisions? I have had a homeless man follow me into the parking garage and wants me to give him money, do I go up the stairwell, elevator, or walk up 4 stories of parking ramps. There are places in town that I don’t get a comfortable feeling being there? Do I have a choice about going there; NO I have to be there because of my work. Not everybody is a redneck. A gun tucked away in a purse or under somebody’s arm does not concern me at all. "

Jackson wrote on May 1, 2006 1:34 pm:
" Dan, thanks for the semi-support. I really try to see your side of it too, and you made some good points. Just don't shoot the homeless guy at the parking garage because he asked you for some change. You know, it just seems like folks who are screaming for concealed guns the most are the ones I would trust the least. I do believe that people should be able to protect themselves, and that folks also have the responsiblity not to put themselves in positions where they need to use guns. Actually, I keep a gun at home, but I don't take it out in public with my family, and I make sure it is locked away from my children. I honestly believe that most of the folks who want a concealed gun believe that a permit to carry it is a license to use it at their discretion, which is dangerous. Not only does one have to be in a situation where they are in immediate danger to life and limb, but they must also have no escape options available to them to use deadly force. This type of situation just does not occur in Lincoln, but, perhaps in the most remote case every several years. In that parking garage you mentioned, you had three good choices that you noted, and shooting the guy was not even among them. Logically, walking around outside in a thunderstorm is considerably more dangerous than having to worry about another individual hurting us in Lincoln and folks ARE getting struck my lightning all the time here, so if one is concerned about safety wouldn't it be safer to carry a personal lightning rod rather than a pistol? I came to Lincoln from a southern city where everybody carried guns, and I have to tell you it was unpleasant. I have seen folks flash their guns at others over minor stupid run-ins on the highway. I was even at a gas station and a guy who was waiting impatiently for the pump got out and pulled his coat back to show his gun. Is that how we want to live here in Lincoln? I got away from that and moved to a beautiful, clean, relatively crime free city in Nebraska. Can't we keep it that way? "

Barbara wrote on May 1, 2006 2:36 pm:
" Dan - oh please. As a resident of one of the neighborhoods adjacent to downtown, I can tell you that you are sorely mistaken about the 'dangers' you face that force you, Dan, to carry a concealed weapon. No, it's not a gated community, and thank deity for that. Stop demonizing my neighborhood - it's a treatment that is completely undeserved. "

Scott G. wrote on May 1, 2006 2:48 pm:
" One thing that none of you people understand is that, for one thing at least half of the people shouting for the conceal carry are not even going to get a permit.The other is that most people will keep the gun in their glovebox in the car or under the seat. It's not like everyone is going to be running around with two hollisters under their coat with a gun in each of them.While flashing and waving the guns at people who cut them off or take the parking spot they wanted! "

Linda wrote on May 1, 2006 3:01 pm:
" Politics not a game? Since when? "

Deb wrote on May 1, 2006 3:35 pm:
" Tom Maul- Congressman Osborne does have a track record as the 3rd District Represenative and I would put it up against the appointed Governor's record. The Governor in 15 months has increased spending 14% which computes to over $400 million and taken the State from #8 to #6 as the worst tax state in the union. Need I say more! TO gets my vote! "

Allen T. wrote on May 1, 2006 3:38 pm:
" Jackson: What a stereotype laden comment. It was almost so over the top, I thought it might be satire, but alas, it appears that you meant every divisive and bigoted word of it. Just because you don't agree with CCW doesn't mean that those that do are paranoid, thug rednecks that live in trailer parks and frequent pawn shops and Wal-Mart. Most paranoid, thug rednecks wouldn’t care about a law anyway and are already carrying their weapons to flash at people over parking spots. This law is for the law abiding citizen (many of them professional upper middle class individuals with college degrees) that wants to be able to protect themselves. Paranoia doesn’t play into it…it is about rights. Do you condone the suppression of every right when some people might disagree about the benefit/detriment of that right? What actually appeals to the lowest common denominator of man are arguments based on castigating people instead of making legal or factual arguments. I can accept that there are intelligent, educated and thoughtful people that disagree with me. Why is it so hard for the Anti-CCW crowd to avoid classifying people that disagree with them as gun totting, hillbillies that have their comments transcribed for them since they can’t read? "

Dan wrote on May 1, 2006 4:27 pm:
" Jackson I can't remember when the last time someone was struck by lighting in Lincoln, but each week it seems like someone is being shot, or stabbed in Lincoln. Also I didn't agree with you in any kind of semi-support. Barbara I'm glad you like living there but I don't like going into your neighborhood at night. Sorry and I don't live in a gated community either. "

nash wrote on May 1, 2006 7:53 pm:
" Jackson, may I say that your amiable writing style is almost a pleasant change from much of the irate no-guns rhetoric that filters onto these pages. You really have a nice way of sugar-coating your back-handed comments. Alas, your warm but deeply divisive message is much of the same drivel: "Nebraska is safe, except for the irresponsible rednecks who want, but cannot be trusted with, guns." Let me enter into an anology for a second: If a city is proclaimed to have a low incidence of STDs, does that make it prudent to have unprotected sex with strangers? If a city has an excellent traffic safety record, is it then wise to habitually drive without your safety belt? Even if you live in a city with the best fire department in the country, should you neglect to have smoke detectors and fire extinquishers in your home? If you live in a city with relatively low crime rates, is it wise to ingore the crime that does take place, like an ostrich with its head in the sand? Obviously not. And obviously Lincoln does have its fair share of violent crime. If you have never encountered it....good. I hope it avoids you altogether. But almost certainly there are some undeserving souls who will not be missed by it. (But hey, what is a little rape or murder to you when it is visited upon some deserving redneck, right?) Much as you indicate, most of us have never felt unsafe in any area of the city. But sometimes bad things happen even in "safe" places. Remember Dru Sjodin? She was abducted from the parking lot of a perfectly "safe" mall in a city very similar to Lincoln. Jackson, you exhibit a solid grasp on a person's duty to retreat under threat of grave harm, and you have enough keen sense to have analyzed Dan's anecdotal situation. Why then does it so effectivley escape you that there are up standing citizens of Lincoln who are trusted with public safety every day, and who might also wish to protect themselves in the face of danger? "

garrison wrote on May 1, 2006 8:47 pm:
" Well Jackson, if all it takes is a permit...then I'm your redneck. I have maintained a concealed weapons permit for several years, which allows me to carry a firearm in several states. My state of residence, Nebraska, is excluded. Your commentary on all us gunslingin' rednecks, while humorous, proves to be a very narrow view of the truth. And while you may have neatly categorized us into one redneck lump, you have also chosen to overlook many of the most upstanding, responsible, and respectable people who do have compelling reasons to go armed in public. I'm really not sure it should be your choice that a prison guard goes unarmed when he knows that he and his family are being stalked by former inmates? Are our justices so honorable that we can count on them to protect society from criminals, yet so unpredictable that that we should not allow them to be armed for their own protection? I have friends that are emergency medical and search and rescue team members. They have permits to carry concealed weapons. They may be rednecks...should they be armed? What about those fellows who guard our nuclear power plants? Nebraska is such a safe place, why do we even need them? And can we trust them with a "hidden gun"? Jackson, I can go on and on, but the fact is simple. Maybe the guy in a office-building cubicle will never need a gun to protect his life, or maybe he will. Whether or not he is a redneck, it really shouldn't be up to you to judge his fate. On the subject of "flashing a gun". The action of displaying a firearm as a threat to others is called "brandishing". It is illegal, and it is absolutely cause to have a license revoked. In the years that I have carried a firearm, never once have I brandished, and never once has it crossed my mind. Training and common sense tells me that your story might be somewhat embellished, but I have to wonder why you neglected to report the acts of brandishing to the authorities. "

Tim wrote on May 2, 2006 9:54 pm:
" My friends and family located in states with legal CCW don't report CCW'ers running amok. In fact, it's pretty much been a non-event according to them. Why should we expect anything different in the Husker state? "